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Post by leanne on Apr 13, 2011 22:00:28 GMT
They'll always be wrestlers to me.
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Post by tucker on Apr 13, 2011 22:05:31 GMT
this whole rebranding thing is ridiculous imo, it's about 30 years too late to make any sense.
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Post by bennn on Apr 14, 2011 0:17:34 GMT
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Post by AndyG on Apr 14, 2011 0:47:48 GMT
Val Venis should commentate and just shoot ALL the time.
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Post by tucker on Apr 14, 2011 1:21:48 GMT
just posted that on the previous page
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Post by bennn on Apr 14, 2011 1:56:23 GMT
just posted that on the previous page I totally missed it obviously
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Post by orch on Apr 14, 2011 20:27:57 GMT
I reckon it will be Sting vs Undertaker next year at WM, and Undertaker will retire after Sting ends the streak. nodq.com/wwe/304815783.shtml
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Post by tucker on Apr 14, 2011 20:35:48 GMT
you honestly think the WWE are going to let the Undertaker get to his 20th WrestleMania undefeated and then at his last ever event make him lose?
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Post by orch on Apr 14, 2011 20:43:53 GMT
yeah then he'll retire.
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Post by tucker on Apr 14, 2011 20:51:51 GMT
so you think they'd destroy the legacy of one of their greatest ever stars in his last ever match?
for what reason exactly?
he'll retire at 20-0.
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Post by bennn on Apr 14, 2011 21:00:39 GMT
If it is Sting as #20, he wont be losing to Sting. Why would Vince have arguably the greatest gimmick created in history lose to a guy who for all intent and purposes would be there to pop a buyrate on a one-off? Undertaker can win and still retire.
If Sting does go to the WWE for that match. Hes going HOF as well. He wont win though.
The only way I see the Undertaker losing if its to someone who would benefit from the win, like a young guy. That would make their career. Sting doesnt benefit from a win and theres virtually no chance of Taker being asked to job to a guy who's never worked in the company until then.
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Post by orch on Apr 14, 2011 21:36:07 GMT
ok fair enough, he won't lose but it's bound to happen next year init? it's shaping up to be a good wm already.
i just thought the undertaker might lose it cos everyone will be expecting him to win.
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Post by bennn on Apr 14, 2011 21:42:35 GMT
i just thought the undertaker might lose it cos everyone will be expecting him to win. Thats what they try to do with the booking. Take this year. HHH puts him in the Tombstone and basically kicks his ass the entire match, but Taker doesnt die. Same thing with the Michaels' matches. They create the possibility in the match itself. I thought Taker was losing once HHH tombstoned him. It was excellent stuff. Next year will be interesting to see what they do with 20. Its hard to guess. Id guess HHH again now as it was kind of hinted at with HHH's promo on Raw the next night.
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Post by jollyboy on Apr 14, 2011 21:42:45 GMT
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Post by AndyG on Apr 14, 2011 22:46:49 GMT
as much as i'd like to see Taker vs Sting at Mania i dont think it'll ever happen, Taker is going to retire undefeated at Mania and Sting wont come in to lose (unless they debut him before but id doubt it) so i think the only "special" person they'd have left in my opinion would be Cena which of course isnt possible.
So if possible i think Chris Jericho should get the nod providing he's back, i'd book it with Jericho coming back as a face (which he naturally will on return anyway) Jericho has said he wants to tread new ground upon his return and he's never really made it as a face, his face run upon his return was very luke warm so i think WWE should go with that leading to an eventual heel turn around rumble time, have Jericho get the better of Taker all the way through 'Mania Season' so Jericho's entire promo on Taker is about how as good as he is, he cant outdo Chris Jericho which will give the whole beatable thing which WWE loves leading into Mania.
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Post by Belligerent Hype Man on Apr 14, 2011 22:47:49 GMT
Went to the Wrestlemania Revenge Tour tonight with my 6 year old nephew.
It was a lot better than i thought it would be, some good matches especially CM Punk V Randy Orton and Sheamus v Daniel Bryan. The main event was Cena v The Miz ... who i can confirm is awesome, his pre-fight promo had me in stitches.
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Post by orch on Apr 16, 2011 4:57:12 GMT
The thing is they're going to have to do something different next year with The Undertakers match. They can't just have him kick out of loads of special moves over and over again so everyone thinks he is about to lose.
Because next year, after this year, no one will think for one minute that Taker will lose. Even if he gets a thousand pedigrees. So that's why I think he should lose, to shock people, they'll be able to do it in a way that doesn't ruin his legacy and if it's against Sting, it'll be epic.
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Post by orch on Apr 16, 2011 4:57:32 GMT
And then retire.
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Post by bennn on Apr 17, 2011 17:35:08 GMT
;D LoL at bob the wwe fan boy nugget. So what if undertaker loses? in no way whatsoever does it destroy his legacy, ffs. Look at hogan when he turned heel, everyone thought his legacy would forever be destroyed, but fuck all changed, he was still the man. Oh and I thought you havent watched wrestling for years? so why are you making 100 posts a day about it. havent you got a few steaks to cook? Ax, there's a big difference between Hogan turning heel and the Undertaker losing the streak. Hogan turned heel and his career is still going 14-15 years after that. He's still heavily involved in wrestling and he's also changed back to a face in that timeframe, as well as turning heel again The difference with Taker is that it's widely rumored that Taker's career is coming to a close sooner rather than later and that Mania 20 could very well be his last match ever. I don't think it would ruin it his legacy for the streak to end, but what is Taker's biggest namesake? Its not championships. Its the streak. What looks better 19-1 or 20-0? The WWE can capitilize on 20-0 in many ways. Merchandise (marks will buy 20-0 t-shirts), DVDs, all of that stuff. The comparison to Hogan doesn't work. Hogan still had plenty of time in his career. Taker is not going to be like Hogan and be around in the same way. When he retires, he's going to be done match wise. Having Taker lose at this point serves no purpose other than for the swerve. Its not going to do anything lasting to break it. The streak will likely never be broken either. They ended any chance of having someone break it when Edge's own streak was broken at Mania vs Taker. Its too long of a timeframe this day in age with the amount of turnover in the business.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2011 17:44:18 GMT
Sounds to me that Sting takes his legacy far too seriously. Sting, a big fish in a small pond. Always has been, always will be. Never had the bottle to step over to the big time ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D omg axl your idol is a bottle job Just like Gerrard, no bottle to leave, happy to never win the premier league Just like Axl rose, so much pride yet not the bottle to say sorry and get his band together for the biggest tour ever so now has to play silly arena's All your idols are complete losers OWNED
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