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Post by eddiemurphy on Nov 19, 2012 16:06:40 GMT
got bashed up in india then. 7 wicket defeat.  next test starts friday. |
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Post by tupac.tom on Nov 19, 2012 18:41:50 GMT
India played well and seem to have a good replacement for Dravid in Pujara. Its early day's and they are pitches he's used to but he looks class.
Same old conservative England, which idiot thought it would be a good idea to pick Bresnan over Monty? If you are that worried that about the batting that you are effectively picking a bowler on the strength of the few runs he will contribute at number 8 then you have a problem.
If the top 7 can't do it then you are fucked. We need 20 wickets and Monty is a quality spinner.
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Post by stocky on Nov 19, 2012 18:49:22 GMT
Expected the batsman to find it difficult but was surprised our bowlers (thinking of our seamers more) weren't more effective.
Samit Patel needs to fuck off. He can be effective in limited overs but in a test match, he's nothing like good enough, with bat and ball, and fielding come to think of it. Don't know why the selectors think he was up to it. He's got a pretty modest first class record.
Hopefully Finn will be back for the next test. I'd drop Broad for him. As for Monty, might as well swap him with Patel. I know Monty's a bit of a mug with the bat but we're one down in the series and we have to go for it.
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Post by eddiemurphy on Nov 27, 2012 9:03:38 GMT
we won the 2nd test then.  smashed em.  |
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Post by leanne on Nov 27, 2012 18:23:58 GMT
WE've got the best seamers, the best spinners and the best batsman in Alastiar Cook and the best wicketkeeper.
We will dominate for the next 15 years or so.
Ingurlund, ingurlund, ingurlund.
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Post by leanne on Dec 6, 2012 14:31:02 GMT
Is Cook the greatest batsman of all time? Most test centuries for England and youngest anywhere to get 7,000 test runs.
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Post by stocky on Dec 6, 2012 15:44:17 GMT
Deffo the greatest batsman of all time.
He's 27 now and made his debut aged 21, so in 6 years he's made 7000 runs. It's not inconceivable he could play till he's 39 (Tendulkers age now), If he scores his runs at the same rate (a pretty big if, but still entirely possible) he'll have 21,000 test runs thus obliterating Sachin's shitty 15,000 test runs and becoming the all time batting master of the universe.
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Post by abs on Dec 6, 2012 16:07:14 GMT
Cook is brilliant but the difference between Sachin and everyone else is that until recently Sachin was still at the top, in 2010 he scored over 1,500 test runs at the age of 37, and was the first man to reach a ODI double hundred (against the Saffers, no less). At almost 38 he was one of the top scorers in the World Cup last year. Most batsmen start to decline a few years earlier so Tendulkar doing so well in his late thirties is an exception rather than the rule.
Little doubt he is finally in decline now and I think the 2011 World Cup was his last hurrah probably (though he played a key innings this test), but what's more realistic is that Cook will go through a few bad patches and/or decline at a similar rate to most other batsmen. I do think he will be in the same class as for example Ponting or Dravid at the end of his career though which is still obviously one of the best of his generation.
Additionally Sachin reached 7,000 in considerably fewer Tests, but India used to play even less Test cricket than we do now so that's why the age thing comes into play.
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Post by leanne on Dec 6, 2012 16:13:11 GMT
Deffo the greatest batsman of all time. He's 27 now and made his debut aged 21, so in 6 years he's made 7000 runs. It's not inconceivable he could play till he's 39 (Tendulkers age now), If he scores his runs at the same rate (a pretty big if, but still entirely possible) he'll have 21,000 test runs thus obliterating Sachin's shitty 15,000 test runs and becoming the all time batting master of the universe. ;d ;d A reasonably fun way of spending some minutes: www.sporcle.com/games/batsnumbereleven/englands-top-50-test-run-scorers-all-time |
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Post by krburg on Dec 6, 2012 21:45:58 GMT
Cook is brilliant but the difference between Sachin and everyone else is that until recently Sachin was still at the top, in 2010 he scored over 1,500 test runs at the age of 37, and was the first man to reach a ODI double hundred (against the Saffers, no less). At almost 38 he was one of the top scorers in the World Cup last year. Most batsmen start to decline a few years earlier so Tendulkar doing so well in his late thirties is an exception rather than the rule. Little doubt he is finally in decline now and I think the 2011 World Cup was his last hurrah probably (though he played a key innings this test), but what's more realistic is that Cook will go through a few bad patches and/or decline at a similar rate to most other batsmen. I do think he will be in the same class as for example Ponting or Dravid at the end of his career though which is still obviously one of the best of his generation. Additionally Sachin reached 7,000 in considerably fewer Tests, but India used to play even less Test cricket than we do now so that's why the age thing comes into play. Yeah but Sachin has spent half of his career on batting friendly, flat wickets so it doesnt quite count...  |
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Post by stocky on Dec 7, 2012 12:50:28 GMT
Cook is brilliant but the difference between Sachin and everyone else is that until recently Sachin was still at the top, in 2010 he scored over 1,500 test runs at the age of 37, and was the first man to reach a ODI double hundred (against the Saffers, no less). At almost 38 he was one of the top scorers in the World Cup last year. Most batsmen start to decline a few years earlier so Tendulkar doing so well in his late thirties is an exception rather than the rule. Little doubt he is finally in decline now and I think the 2011 World Cup was his last hurrah probably (though he played a key innings this test), but what's more realistic is that Cook will go through a few bad patches and/or decline at a similar rate to most other batsmen. I do think he will be in the same class as for example Ponting or Dravid at the end of his career though which is still obviously one of the best of his generation. Additionally Sachin reached 7,000 in considerably fewer Tests, but India used to play even less Test cricket than we do now so that's why the age thing comes into play. Sachin's the definition of a flat track bully mate, his runs count for less. |
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Post by stocky on Dec 7, 2012 13:02:22 GMT
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Post by krburg on Dec 7, 2012 17:27:20 GMT
Additionally Sachin reached 7,000 in considerably fewer Tests, but India used to play even less Test cricket than we do now so that's why the age thing comes into play. Tendulkar's 7,000 runs came in 85 tests, Cooks came in 86 tests |
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Post by leanne on Dec 7, 2012 17:45:25 GMT
He's a doctor not a mathematician ffs!
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Post by eddiemurphy on Dec 21, 2012 2:15:05 GMT
surprised we ain't rubbed abs nose in it yet.  see india won the 20/20 match last night. ;D only that lot give a shit though.  test cricket forever.  |
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Post by Fuzzy Dunlop on Jun 8, 2013 18:55:55 GMT
Australia aren't very good  Thought the uncompetitive teams weren't allowed in the Champions Trophy? |
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Post by eddiemurphy on May 27, 2014 23:12:46 GMT
sri lanka coming over for the never ending run of games this summer then. one day series resumes at old trafford tonight. got rather thumped in the last one. 157 run defeat. |
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Post by eddiemurphy on May 28, 2014 16:50:52 GMT
2-1 england. easy. |
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Post by eddiemurphy on Jun 3, 2014 21:18:42 GMT
ended up losing the one day series 3-2.  not the best start.  test match always more important though. |
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Post by eddiemurphy on Jun 3, 2014 21:21:16 GMT
lasith malinga's perm. what the fucking hell is that.  |
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