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« Mar 18, 2014 1:05:01 GMT »
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watching this bbc3 documentary on 2 inmates on death row.

i agree with the death penalty.

for pre-meditated murder.

and by means of lethal injection.

don't support hanging, firing squad, electric chair.

slightly too barbaric in a 21st century world.

although death by lethal injection ain't exactly a party is it. :-X

included a poll so let the voting begin. :)



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« Mar 18, 2014 2:39:01 GMT »
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i'd prefer life to actual mean life

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« Mar 18, 2014 17:25:55 GMT »
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against it only because it's a quick way out. You kill someone,you go in a hole full of spyderz

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« Mar 18, 2014 18:40:22 GMT »
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5-2 down here. :|

like to see a national vote on it in the uk.

but typically the politicians will never let the people decide on these things.

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« Mar 18, 2014 19:40:29 GMT »
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I just dont see the point in putting someone on death row for years and years. If they are going to kill someone just fucking do it

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« Mar 18, 2014 20:42:17 GMT »
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5-2 down here. :|

like to see a national vote on it in the uk.

but typically the politicians will never let the people decide on these things.

how would that work Eddie, I mean, should your vote count as equal to mine?

and should there be a referendum on everything, maybe on what day the bins go out or whether clubs that tolerate racism should be allowed in the premier league?


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« Mar 18, 2014 21:11:14 GMT via mobile »
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Lethal injection is barbaric, hence why medical companies from EU states are now refusing to send the necessary drugs to the US. One of the few things the UK has got right since the 60s is abolishing the death penalty.

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« Mar 18, 2014 21:13:00 GMT »
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it was abolished 50 yrs ago and isn't coming back.

the politicians are still stalling on the eu referendum.

let alone a capital punishment one.

so i'm pissing in the wind even bringing it up really. :D


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Lethal injection is barbaric, hence why medical companies from EU states are now refusing to send the necessary drugs to the US. One of the few things the UK has got right since the 60s is abolishing the death penalty.


i respect the differing opinions on it.

this place is a bit dead.

anything that encourages active debate.

even the part timer mr david has contributed.

in his typically dismissive way.

bless. :))

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« Mar 19, 2014 18:01:51 GMT »
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Not only is the death penalty barbaric, it's produced numerous irreversible miscarriages of justice where people have been wrongly murdered by the state, and the evidence shows that states which carry out the death penalty don't have murder rates any lower than those that do.

And it actually costs more to execute someone than it does to imprison someone for life - usually there is a very long and drawn out appeals process which is why people are in death row for so long.

So the death penalty makes no sense on any level.

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« Mar 19, 2014 19:53:20 GMT »
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but what about the advances in forensic science since it went away.

which can prove a case beyond any doubt.

i'm not bothered about the monetary concerns of keeping a prisoner locked up.

fuck that part of it. :D



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« Mar 19, 2014 19:57:05 GMT »
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12-3 against on the vote.

thought it would be closer than that.

the lefty brigade are out in force it seems.

and they still hate my chunkymark thread. :(

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« Mar 20, 2014 1:00:40 GMT »
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Not only is the death penalty barbaric, it's produced numerous irreversible miscarriages of justice where people have been wrongly murdered by the state, and the evidence shows that states which carry out the death penalty don't have murder rates any lower than those that do.

And it actually costs more to execute someone than it does to imprison someone for life - usually there is a very long and drawn out appeals process which is why people are in death row for so long.

So the death penalty makes no sense on any level.


Definitely not true in the US.

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« Mar 20, 2014 13:49:41 GMT »
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www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

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« Mar 20, 2014 18:12:31 GMT »
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Not only is the death penalty barbaric, it's produced numerous irreversible miscarriages of justice where people have been wrongly murdered by the state, and the evidence shows that states which carry out the death penalty don't have murder rates any lower than those that do.

And it actually costs more to execute someone than it does to imprison someone for life - usually there is a very long and drawn out appeals process which is why people are in death row for so long.

So the death penalty makes no sense on any level.
Definitely not true in the US.


Pretty sure that fact refers to the US. Remember how long prisoners spend on death row anyway, and then add in all the legal costs. It's not hard to believe it costs more to execute someone.

It's probably less likely to apply to Saudi Arabia or some other primitive country where justice is even worse than the States.


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« Mar 20, 2014 20:06:04 GMT »
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it dots the i's and crosses the t's in an extended legal wrangle.

a case gets picked apart.

which i suppose the severest punishment should be.

checks and balances and all that. :)

the cost side of it isn't really an issue for me.

i don't support it on the grounds it saves or loses money.

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« Mar 20, 2014 20:32:33 GMT »
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Why do you support it then?

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Why do you support it then?


i think it fits the severity of the crime.

life in prison isn't ideal.

but it's an adjustable situation.

and u r still living a life.

something the victim of the crime isn't. :P

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it dots the i's and crosses the t's in an extended legal wrangle.

a case gets picked apart.

which i suppose the severest punishment should be.

checks and balances and all that. :)

the cost side of it isn't really an issue for me.

i don't support it on the grounds it saves or loses money.


Surely the fact that several people over the past 100 years and more have been wrongly convicted of crimes they didn't commit is enough to show that such an ultimate punishment as death is wrong? That's without even bringing up the idea of a state being able to kill people if it feels they've disobeyed their rules and that being ok.

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