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« May 28, 2021 21:11:03 GMT »
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I've recently come to the realisation it is Paul Weller

What do you think?

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« May 28, 2021 21:35:00 GMT »
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I read this thread while I was walking back home, and I started to build a list of people in my mind...10...15...20
I really thought "I'm gonna literally blow JP's head out of his arse with my reply"
By the time I've come home and sat in front of the laptop, I realised that perhaps you're right.

All the other legends I thought of were great, then they started to suck at some point, or died too soon, or got trapped in their own little shtick, became irrelevant, obnoxious or nonces.
I couldn't come up with anybody who's been as good, as cool and as British for as long as Weller.
So perhaps yes, it is Paul Weller...



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bowie had shit spells, morrissey became shit and racist, lennon and strummer were good but not for the length of time weller has been.

most of the classics went shit in the 80s, weller went and did the fucking style council. it don't get much cooler than that.

fuck knows how many albums and songs hes put out over the jam, style council and solo but still not a bad lp. the guys a machine.

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I mean, the only counter-argument people might bring up is Paul McCartney, whom I don't like in the slightest but I get it, he's the big one, he managed to stay consistent and relevant through the generations and when he releases an album now, people of all ages still notice. I would never pick McCartney, but I wouldn't freak out if people do.
Weller would be Top-10 for his time in The Jam alone, without question. Then add more than 35 years of consistently high quality material ranging from sophisticated jazz-pop to northern soul and yeah, you have a point...

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« May 28, 2021 22:21:39 GMT »
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the same year mccartney was releasing frog song, weller was putting out shout to the top. its a no contest.

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the same year mccartney was releasing frog song, weller was putting out shout to the top. its a no contest.


20 yrs in and weller was writing shite like sweet pea, my sweet pea. :-X

some of the low points of style council is way worse than wings. :|

mccartney>>>>>>>>weller.

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most of the classics went shit in the 80s, weller went and did the fucking style council. it don't get much cooler than that.


listen to this scritti politti dross all day saturday japes.





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Ray Davies for fuck's sake.

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Ray Davies for fuck's sake.


Oh he's a challenger based on The Kinks golden period for sure. The Kinks got shit though and Davies solo stuff has hardly set the world alight. Weller has probably released about 100 great songs since Davies last did.

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I've done a series of stress tests on this before posting the thread BTW and Weller is definitely the answer.

Quality of songs, length of career, diversity of output, consistency and not having a proper shit period.

His highs might not be quite as good as Bowie etc but overall Weller wins.

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Gotta be Bowie for me. Yeah he had shit spells but I don't think that can be used to dismiss him. Sure, Weller might be the most consistent over the years but you haven't called this thread who is the most consistent British songwriter of all time. I don't think consistency necessarily equates to greatness. Bowie's high points blow Weller away.

Just my opinion of course. I'm just glad we're getting new threads in the Music section were people are discussing and being passionate about what they love.

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Either the guy from the Coral or Weller, it has to be one of them

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I'd pay a hundred bucks for a Chemical Brothers remix of In Better Times though

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The Frog Song > The Pebbles on a Beach song.

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Ray Davies was the first one I thought of, but how can you be the best if you haven't written a good tune in 45 years?!

My "actual" picks would have been either Michael Head of The Pale Fountains / Shack or John Cale of you know who

I don't think Mick Head has ever made a bad album...and the latest stuff is just as good as the early stuff.
But he's made like, 9 albums in 40 years. That's not enough. He's never really been relevant on a national level, bar one time he was put on the cover of the NME in 1996.

Cale on the other hand was a musician and music composer in two of the greatest albums ever, and has had a long and beautiful solo career, but he's still the quintessential niche musician.

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The answer is obviously George Michael

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I dearly love the kinks but ray hasn’t been good for almost 50 years. Those concept albums from the 70s should be enough to disqualify him by themselves.

Macca had higher highs (and lower lows...’freedom’, anyone?), so weller is probably a good shout on consistency alone. But he never wrote ‘get back’ either.

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JP DO YOU MEAN GREAT BRITAIN OR THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN & NORTHERN IRELAND?!

Because if you mean THE UK then Van Morrison is another potential candidate.

His stuff with Them is ridiculously spectacular. Some of his solo albums are legendary.
He has achieved legendary status not only in the UK and Europe, but also in the US...basically beating Americans at their own game.
I mean, Macca was never invited to the Last Waltz, was he?!

He keeps making new albums that are well received and are still relevant amongst people of his generation (but not ours). And he must be a true son of a bitch.

I think there'll be only a small amount of music made in the last century that will survive the ages and will still be played in the year 3000, 4000 etc.
Louie Louie, Johnny B. Goode...that kind of songs.
Van Morrison has written about 3 of them.


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i'll allow northern ireland

van morrison is another who had a golden period but hasn't really been relevant for decades. even more so now hes an anti vax loon.



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