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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 12:56:35 GMT
Post by jimmy on Apr 11, 2012 12:56:35 GMT
Diego is the greatest footballer thats ever lived. Iconic almost religious figure in Argentina. Messi doesnt come close. ;D
''To understand the gargantuan shadow Maradona casts over his soccer-mad homeland, one has to conjure up the athleticism of Michael Jordan, the power of Babe Ruth – and the human fallibility of Mike Tyson. Lump them together in a single barrel-chested man with shaggy black hair and you have El Diego, idol to the millions who call him D10S, a mashup of his playing number and the Spanish word for God.''
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 12:57:57 GMT
Post by Mr David on Apr 11, 2012 12:57:57 GMT
I'm reasonably sure no one has ever called him d10s
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 13:00:21 GMT
Post by jimmy on Apr 11, 2012 13:00:21 GMT
They do in Argentina.
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 13:03:30 GMT
Post by thereandthen on Apr 11, 2012 13:03:30 GMT
Then they might have a funny accent in Argentina.
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 13:05:04 GMT
Post by Mr David on Apr 11, 2012 13:05:04 GMT
get this straight, you're insisting that anyone, ever has referred to maradonna as 'dey-diez-ess' or however you'd pronounce it? I'd go as far as to say its never happened. even once.
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 13:09:51 GMT
Post by jimmy on Apr 11, 2012 13:09:51 GMT
I couldnt give a fuck either way
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 15:29:29 GMT
Post by eddiemurphy on Apr 11, 2012 15:29:29 GMT
king of naples doc is worth a watch. old enough to remember 1990 world cup. was disappointed with diego after all the hype. nice set up against brazil for the winner though.
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 16:52:20 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 16:52:20 GMT
Messi > Maradona.
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Post by Belligerent Hype Man on Apr 11, 2012 17:19:09 GMT
George Best > Diego
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 17:35:41 GMT
Post by calimocho on Apr 11, 2012 17:35:41 GMT
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 17:56:58 GMT
Post by twiceasbart on Apr 11, 2012 17:56:58 GMT
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 18:09:41 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 18:09:41 GMT
lol
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 18:11:57 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 18:11:57 GMT
I'm not having a dig here Jimmy but just how many games do you remember seeing when Maradona was at his best? 1991 was the end of his time at Napoli and he's been off the rails for a few years prior to that.
I just find it weird how people our age can talk about how great a player was who they'd not seen play 90 minutes that many times. Players from before my time or the majority of their career being from well before I can remember means I can only rely on highlight packages & stats which never tell the complete story.
I'm not doubting that Maradona was one of the best but for somebody in our age bracket to claim he's the best ever just feels redundant.
All I know is I've seen Messi play enough to know he's the best player that's played football since I've been watching football.
After Le Tissier of course.
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 18:23:41 GMT
Post by jimmy on Apr 11, 2012 18:23:41 GMT
I seen him a fair few times. The main difference is that the game has changed so much since the time Maradona was ruling the world. As little as a decade ago there were tackles crunching in all over. Now half the players would be red carded. Another thing that is noticeable in Maradona's era is free kicks not being given half as much. Players getting shoved around and not even appealling for free kicks. My point is that Messi has it far easier than what Maradona had to contend with.
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 18:34:00 GMT
Post by Mr David on Apr 11, 2012 18:34:00 GMT
I seen him a fair few times. The main difference is that the game has changed so much since the time Maradona was ruling the world. As little as a decade ago there were tackles crunching in all over. Now half the players would be red carded. Another thing that is noticeable in Maradona's era is free kicks not being given half as much. Players getting shoved around and not even appealling for free kicks. My point is that Messi has it far easier than what Maradona had to contend with. Worryingly, I agree with this.
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 18:34:54 GMT
Post by Simone on Apr 11, 2012 18:34:54 GMT
I just find it weird how people our age can talk about how great a player was who they'd not seen play 90 minutes that many times. I agree with that. We only get a second hand perception of the players. As much as I like Maradona and understand all the frenzy around him (people in Napoli consider him, as you'd expect, a God, and Diego became the most popular name for newborn children in Napoli during that time), I still can't judge him, since I was too little to have an opinion when he peaked. Yeah, I remember the world cups et al, but fuck knows, you don't have the brain to understand a player when you are 7. At that age, you just know Brazil and Argentina are stronger than your national team, and you have to defeat them. Still, I enjoy hearing tales from people who could see El Pibe first hand. My grandpa was an amateur football manager for a local team, and he used to say Maradona was the greatest player ever.
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 18:35:54 GMT
Post by morningglory on Apr 11, 2012 18:35:54 GMT
I seen him a fair few times. The main difference is that the game has changed so much since the time Maradona was ruling the world. As little as a decade ago there were tackles crunching in all over. Now half the players would be red carded. Another thing that is noticeable in Maradona's era is free kicks not being given half as much. Players getting shoved around and not even appealling for free kicks. My point is that Messi has it far easier than what Maradona had to contend with. Worryingly, I agree with this. I agree in a fashion, Messi still gets kicked to fuck some weeks though.
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 18:51:44 GMT
Post by Simone on Apr 11, 2012 18:51:44 GMT
I seen him a fair few times. The main difference is that the game has changed so much since the time Maradona was ruling the world. As little as a decade ago there were tackles crunching in all over. Now half the players would be red carded. Another thing that is noticeable in Maradona's era is free kicks not being given half as much. Players getting shoved around and not even appealling for free kicks. My point is that Messi has it far easier than what Maradona had to contend with. I agree with this. But you can say the same for Pelé -- who was active when the game was much different from the football Maradona played. So who knows?!
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 19:15:07 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 19:15:07 GMT
disagree with nearly everything said here. All of it is pretty much horse shit.
If Diego played against butchers with no talent, Messi plays against super human athletes.
Messi is breaking world records right now, and his opponents have all the technology, all the education and all the resources at hand to enable them to be the best at what they do, and therefore you could easily argue that messi has it harder than any of the greats who came before him.
Plus you've got enormous psychological pressure to deal with, media obligations, globalization, mass exposure, the sky sports era etc etc, the list is pretty much endless.
anyone who says messi has it easy is an enormous cunt. He is a genius who does it just as good if not better than anyone who came before him.
When x talented player ran past 8 players 20,30,40,50 years ago, who's to say 5 of them werent A) hungover B) on a shit diet C) worked other jobs D) overweight
The same does not apply now, as you'd get dropped instantly.
Put Maradona in todays game with the same mind set he had all those years ago, and he wouldnt last a minute.
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Maradona
Posted On: Apr 11, 2012 19:18:49 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 19:18:49 GMT
I guess that means all Man United's premier league titles over the past 15 years hold much more weight and merit than the ones Liverpool won back in the day against hungover, on a shit diet, overweight milkmen then.
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