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Post by leanne on Sept 19, 2011 16:33:29 GMT
;D
Tony's gonna fuck him up. ;D
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Post by eddiemurphy on Sept 19, 2011 16:38:36 GMT
;D Tony's gonna fuck him up. ;D if your so confident have a bet with me. ;D liverpool badge in ya avatar if clev wins. everton badge in my avatar if bellew wins.
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Post by leanne on Sept 19, 2011 16:43:43 GMT
For how long, eddie?
It's light heavy, one lucky punch could win it for the Welsh.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 16:45:42 GMT
1 week I think would be fair enough. Would rather see Murphs with a City badge though as I know he's dieing to have one
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Post by Benoît Assou-Ekotto on Sept 19, 2011 16:51:28 GMT
Are they both English? Both sides look like The Mafia.
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Post by leanne on Sept 19, 2011 16:54:29 GMT
Tony is English.
Cleverly comes from Cymru.
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Post by stocky on Sept 19, 2011 17:03:10 GMT
aha no one can seriously think that Bellew has a chance in this one?
Cleverly is light years ahead of Bellew, If it wasn't for Bellew's mouth this fight would never have even happened. Bellew has struggled with some very average british level contenders. Cleverly has proved himself against some world class top 10 contenders. Whilst I don't think Clev will go on to become the best in his weight division like say Khan has or Hatton did, he's still far too much for Bellew, think it'll be a boxing clinic for 9 rounds, then as Bellew gets more and more frustrated he'll get wild and end up getting KTFO.
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Post by leanne on Sept 19, 2011 17:10:11 GMT
Who has Bellew struggled against?
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Post by Belligerent Hype Man on Sept 19, 2011 17:17:01 GMT
Having watched those videos i'm in Tony's corner. He seems a bit of a don.
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Post by eddiemurphy on Sept 19, 2011 17:20:20 GMT
For how long, eddie? It's light heavy, one lucky punch could win it for the Welsh. 2 weeks seems about right. ;D
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Post by stocky on Sept 19, 2011 17:22:57 GMT
He looked dreadful against Bob AJisafe (a really average domestic level fighter) and wasn't an at all convincing win for someone who thinks he should be fighting for world championships. I think Ajisafe kocked him down too.
He was far too easy to hit in the first fight against Mckenzie (another very average fighter with a fair few losses on his record) who was landing rights at win and put him on his arse. He made up for it a bit in the rematch and was far tighter defensively but on the flipside, he didn't really land much that was solid and struggled for fluency and timing, something that he'll need a lot of when he fights Cleverly.
Just looked on boxrec too, and he got knocked down earlier on in his career by someone with 22 defeats on there record. Cleverly has never been knocked down and has fought far superior opposition.
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Post by leanne on Sept 19, 2011 17:27:11 GMT
For how long, eddie? It's light heavy, one lucky punch could win it for the Welsh. 2 weeks seems about right. ;D deal. You should have a Stockport County avatar though - they're City's real rivals.
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Post by leanne on Sept 19, 2011 17:33:11 GMT
He looked dreadful against Bob AJisafe (a really average domestic level fighter) and wasn't an at all convincing win for someone who thinks he should be fighting for world championships. I think Ajisafe kocked him down too. He was far too easy to hit in the first fight against Mckenzie (another very average fighter with a fair few losses on his record) who was landing rights at win and put him on his arse. He made up for it a bit in the rematch and was far tighter defensively but on the flipside, he didn't really land much that was solid and struggled for fluency and timing, something that he'll need a lot of when he fights Cleverly. Just looked on boxrec too, and he got knocked down earlier on in his career by someone with 22 defeats on there record. Cleverly has never been knocked down and has fought far superior opposition. He won by UD against Bob AJisafe, he hardly struggled. Not sure who these world class fighters that cleverly fought are either. Murat has probably been his toughest fight so far and he had previously never left Germany. (or hardly ever) Never fought anyone who hits as hard as Bellew and Tony's getting better with every fight. From the videos it looks like Tony's the cocky one but from reports of people who know Nathan he's a right arrogant cunt, whereas everyone who knows Tony says he's great fella. I think cleverly thinks this is going to be a walk in the park, going to get a rude awakening on Oct 15 though. Fact.
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Post by stocky on Sept 19, 2011 17:50:14 GMT
A UD doesn't mean he didn't struggle, it only means all the judges agreed that he won, which he did. I watched the fight and in my honest opinion, Bellew looked terrible. I've watched him fight three times and judging from those performances he's nothing special.
Yep, agreed that Karo Murat is Cleverlys one true world class victory. Murat is without doubt a true world class fighter, he holds a victory over Campillo who is a former (should be current if judges weren't so corrupt) world champion. Cleverly also owns a victory over Danny Macintosh who was the best in the country at the time he fought him.
I don't have any gripes with Bellew, he's by far a more interesting personality than Cleverly and the more I think about it, the more i'd like him to win. I just don't think he really deserves this shot, and I can't help thinking that the public have been duped a little bit by sky into thinking that this fight will be more competitive than it will be. Sure it's no Haye Harrison in terms of deceiving the public but it's being hyped more than it should have been.
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Post by eddiemurphy on Sept 20, 2011 15:22:55 GMT
A UD doesn't mean he didn't struggle, it only means all the judges agreed that he won, which he did. I watched the fight and in my honest opinion, Bellew looked terrible. I've watched him fight three times and judging from those performances he's nothing special. Yep, agreed that Karo Murat is Cleverlys one true world class victory. Murat is without doubt a true world class fighter, he holds a victory over Campillo who is a former (should be current if judges weren't so corrupt) world champion. Cleverly also owns a victory over Danny Macintosh who was the best in the country at the time he fought him. I don't have any gripes with Bellew, he's by far a more interesting personality than Cleverly and the more I think about it, the more i'd like him to win. I just don't think he really deserves this shot, and I can't help thinking that the public have been duped a little bit by sky into thinking that this fight will be more competitive than it will be. Sure it's no Haye Harrison in terms of deceiving the public but it's being hyped more than it should have been. fought the rematch with mckenzie so defensive. definitely knows his chin ain't all that. to get a world title shot off the back of that performance sums up the current state of boxing. title belts don't mean shit.
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Post by leanne on Sept 20, 2011 15:25:16 GMT
Eds, you looking forward to the jones/jackson fight in the UFC?
Jones in the first round, get your money down. ;D
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Post by srk on Sept 20, 2011 15:31:47 GMT
I want Bones to win, but I just have this sneaking suspicion that Rampage is in his head, and he'll come out reckless and get caught. He's only a kid after all.
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Post by eddiemurphy on Sept 20, 2011 15:36:09 GMT
don't really keep tabs on ufc.
seen rampage jackson fight a few times.
did go thru a phase when i tried to get into it. ;D
but just never quite the ticket for me.
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Post by Mr David on Sept 20, 2011 16:16:40 GMT
LEGEND
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Post by eddiemurphy on Sept 20, 2011 20:44:26 GMT
LEGEND certainly wouldn't argue with him. just find it really unsatisfying. usually in boxing u have a build up to a stoppage or KO. in ufc it happens so quick and ya left unsatisfied.
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