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Post by leanne on Aug 29, 2010 12:37:07 GMT
"throughout his early years he was essentially used as a utility player, spending time as a centre-half, right and left full-back and defensive midfield "
"In 1999–2000 he played mainly as a right-back,"
COnsiderably more than "one or two games". Even "one or two" is a backtrack from your original claim.
"During this period, Carragher's place in the team was also threatened by signings of Steve Finnan and John Arne Riise."
"He was selected for the England squad for the 2006 World Cup in Germany, and was not in the original starting eleven, but came into the team after Gary Neville suffered an injury."
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Post by bobothy on Aug 29, 2010 12:45:40 GMT
still takes nothing away from the fact that Everton got raped several times by Portuguese teams (one of which beat Everton 5-0 and then 2-0 before losing 4-1 to Liverpool.)
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Post by leanne on Aug 29, 2010 12:48:57 GMT
WE've been through this.
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Post by bobothy on Aug 29, 2010 12:50:34 GMT
not quite, you used weasel excuses the first time.
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Post by eddiemurphy on Aug 29, 2010 13:06:36 GMT
looks as if villa is gonna be robbie keanes destination after all. really hope we get in a striker who will scare defences, fabiano would be ideal. looks like the fee is messing that one up though. i would be insanely jealous if u signed him. rate him highly tbh. think he'd suit the premier league really well. ;D |
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Post by thegreathehe on Aug 29, 2010 18:37:50 GMT
 liverpool in talks with west ham to sign carlton coole |
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Post by nigelhavers on Aug 29, 2010 19:44:38 GMT
Sunderland close to signing Ghana striker Gyan for 10 million from Rennes according to sky sports news. Any good ?
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Post by bobothy on Aug 29, 2010 19:45:43 GMT
Gyan impressed me at the World Cup in a few games, looked strong, quick and skillful, but that's all i've seen of him tbh
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Post by Wiseau on Aug 29, 2010 22:00:50 GMT
Didn't Carragher quit England because they could only fit in him in the team at RB? He definitely played there for years at national level.
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Post by bobothy on Aug 29, 2010 22:13:46 GMT
no he quit because he was pissed off at the likes of Wes Brown getting picked ahead of him all the time for centre half so he decided that he was being overlooked unfairly and give it up. He played there a few times but like i said he was only ever there as cover and when first choice players were missing, he only became a regular under Houllier who preferred him at left back and in the last 10 years or so he's probably played right back about 10-15 times.
But i moved on from that anyway and proved my point in a better way with Mascherano who has never played right back before but filled in there a few times last season - without making the team a reserve team.
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Post by dereffe on Aug 29, 2010 22:28:40 GMT
Whether Carragher played right back back twice or 20 times doesn't really have something to do with the fact that the point bobothy is making is completely valid
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Post by thereandthen on Aug 30, 2010 2:50:42 GMT
still takes nothing away from the fact that Everton got raped several times by Portuguese teams (one of which beat Everton 5-0 and then 2-0 before losing 4-1 to Liverpool.) I`m not doing a Byram here, but that 4-1 although a fair and explicit result, can be explained as one team really wanted to win their league, and other team playing everything on that game. That game, after winning 2-1 at home, was the low moment of our season. I`m sure we would destroy Pathetico Madrid. It was stupid not playing 2 or 3 players and all the talks that we wanted to win the league first. Byram, the only thing "close" on that Benfica 5-0 Everton result, was our the 6th goal.  |
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Post by dereffe on Aug 30, 2010 10:15:58 GMT
Rafael van der Vaart to Bayern Munich, so they say
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Post by leanne on Aug 30, 2010 11:24:39 GMT
Whether Carragher played right back back twice or 20 times doesn't really have something to do with the fact that the point bobothy is making is completely valid Except not really, our entire back 4 was made up with reserves. Our midfield was lacking Pienaar, Arteta, Neville and Osman, we had Fellaini recovering from a virus. So many midfielders out meant we couldn't play our usual formation and had to put Jo in the team, weakening it further. YEs we had Cahill and Howard but far, far from our first xi. It's inarguable. |
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Post by leanne on Aug 30, 2010 11:26:04 GMT
no he quit because he was pissed off at the likes of Wes Brown getting picked ahead of him all the time for centre half so he decided that he was being overlooked unfairly and give it up. He played there a few times but like i said he was only ever there as cover and when first choice players were missing, he only became a regular under Houllier who preferred him at left back and in the last 10 years or so he's probably played right back about 10-15 times. But i moved on from that anyway and proved my point in a better way with Mascherano who has never played right back before but filled in there a few times last season - without making the team a reserve team. If gosling playing at right back was the only adjustment we had to make then you'd have a point. I've proved fairly conclusively that it wasn't just that though. |
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Post by dereffe on Aug 30, 2010 11:29:42 GMT
The point is that whether Pienaar was lacking, Fellaini was suffering from a virus doesn't matter. Even if he recovered from fucking AIDS, a reserve team is a team full of players who (ALMOST) NEVER played a match for the first team or at least didn't play first team games for a long period of time (and not because they were injured). It was a weakened Everton team, like bobothy said
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Post by eddiemurphy on Aug 30, 2010 11:35:59 GMT
delighted with this raul meireles transfer. ;D i'll miss him for fc porto on fifa 11 though.  |
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Post by bobothy on Aug 30, 2010 11:44:19 GMT
play as Liverpool then ffs
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Post by dereffe on Aug 30, 2010 11:47:56 GMT
or transfer him to porto |
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Post by tucker on Aug 30, 2010 11:50:52 GMT
just don't buy fifa 11 mate, PROTEST!
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