a good article about royalities/streaming

no one give a shit about this u cunt.



fucking proper rock n roll.

Jj72 are the worst band in history

lol.

algeria isn't that bad

Good read, thanks man

I find that article really, really sad. I wouldn't want to go back to a pre-2000s music industry particularly, when you were forced to pay ridiculous amounts for crappy CDs, but when you think what has been lost since then, you do wonder if music fans have simply stood back this past decade and watched the industry that supported the bands they loved collapse and die.

It's particularly brutal for 'indie' bands - I use that term loosely - who are just starting out, or cult bands. As that article says, it wasn't that long ago that a new band that pressed and sold 1000 EPs could return a decent profit. That would then pay for a tour, or a new EP, or attract the attention of a bigger label, and they could go on and flourish. That simply doesn't happen any more. The lower end of the music market now is chaotic, full of bands that juggle full time jobs who play poorly promoted bit-part tours and release badly produced albums on the cheap. There's as much good music as ever, but more of it is going missing and unnoticed.

We never released it

Agree completely, we've all got our heads in the sand because a) it's saving us money and b) people making music, love it so much they'll always keep making it, even if they never get any money from it.

I feel terrible every time I go back to my parents house, open the wardrope and see the massive boxes full of hundreds (think I stopped buying at about 700) of cd albums all bought and paid for at around a tenner a pop (shit! 7 grand on music).

I haven't bought any music legally for about 3 years now, partly because it's much easier to download it illegally than download it legally from itunes or whatever (plus itunes doesn't support flac, but that's another matter). Also though, because the whole culture of mass downloading, you don't have to invest any time anymore in thinking whether you'll actually like something or not. It'd piss me off majorly now if I bought an album on itunes then decided I hated it and ended up deleting it. You don't really feel like your money has 'bought' you anything, it's only data so it just feels like a bit of a rip off.

It'd be nice if on some of these websites where supposedly it's all about the music like what.cd if under the artist sub pages you had some kind of link where you could skip all the middle men and donate directly to the artist. Because that's the other thing that pisses me off, itunes greedy cut of any sales on their site. I don't know what the figures are exactly but i've heard it's pretty scandalous, especially when you consider there's no distribution costs attributed to it.

I read that article a while ago, interesting to have that inner view, it is a detailed illustration of the current situation. But after all, everyone complaining for different reasons and still nobody offers real good solutions, not even knows where it will lead to at the end.

You get 35p on music magpie. Don't do it. You'll feel dirty.

Yeah I heard their CD rates were terrible. I got rid of a 100 shit DVD's I didn't want and got exactly 100 quid. Some were worth more than others. I guess I could of ebayed them all and made much more but there was no way that was ever going to happen.

Well, I don't think CDs will have a big collecting value, but there's no big difference between getting 35p for each and throwing them to the bin.

I still buy some tbh.

news.sky.com/story/1038002/hmv-board-in-crisis-talks-over-chains-future

looking like administration.

Obviously heartbreaking for the 4,000 people that HMV employees but minus that factor, good riddance. They've brought it on themselves by deciding to dedicate the majority of their store space to computer games & silly oversized headphones. The actual music selection is diabolical & I doubt anyone who wants something that isn't in the charts would think to look in HMV first because chances are they won't have it & if they do they could get it at almost half the price on the net. Then those who want to purchase chart music can just pick it up as cheap in Tesco's.

It'd be a great thing to see them go just to see if it could help the independents survive. Gutting for the employees though.

It's gonna hurt "the highstreet" though. You could always waste 10-20 minutes in there shuffling around.

There's absolutely fuck all in Basildon Town Centre these days bar pound shops and fucking junk food. We have a a bizarre really futuristic Burger King as well. It's like 2030 in there.

Fuck knows what the future holds for "The Highstreet".

this sort of thing gone forever.