Do You Think The X-factor has Ruined Music?

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www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/albums

even the album charts is full of pap at the moment.

It's only depressing for anybody who still spends time looking at the charts wondering why there isn't anything good there anymore. Anyone with any sense has moved on and found good music in a variety of other ways rather than waiting for it to be handed to them on a plate.

That's not my reason for thinking it is depressing though, I say it's sad because it reflects the tastes of people. It's not new and whatever but still. And this conversation is becoming a vicious circle anyway.

Yeah

This. Except I thought most music fans had accepted this was the state of the affairs in 2007.

BARNEY MOURNING THE LOSS OF "THE BIG SINGLE"

I kind of agree with this. It used to exciting to go in to a record store and buy THE BIG NEW SINGLE. The free download single has confused things and I don't think it does anyone any favours. It's just part of the Radiohead honesty box wave and bands thinking they need to give things away for free. They don't. Like Noel once said (before he became a cunt) being a single was like buying a badge as much as a CD. You felt part of something. The other side of the coin is 5 years on I can barely remember outside of Oasis and The Verve what THE BIG SINGLE's were so y'know it was probably a needless but happy facade. It's dead anyway because there's no where on the highstreet that stocks them.

PEOPLE HAVE MOVED ON
WHO CARES ABOUT THE CHARTS
YOU CAN GET GOOD MUSIC ANYWHERE

I don't agree with this. The singles, album, stream and illegal download charts are all in alignment. There's no underground movement related to a scene or illegal downloads pointing towards popularity that's not reflected in the charts. There's one large movement into mainstream pop/dance music and there's another with Tech heads doing MDMA all night. The indie thing is dead at this point bar festivals. Festivals are obviously all about money. No one gives a shit what they are putting on (Rhianananana and Mumford and Sons headlining T In The Park). Whilst it shouldn't matter because we can freely access 50 odd years of music it does because we're Oasis fans. We like our music big and we like to experience it collectively and the next band to come and deliver that don't look like they're coming anytime soon. That band really need to come along soon and be about the music and the buzz (Libertines style) and not about doing 5 nights at Brixton at £40 a ticket (I knew the Libertines did 3 nights at Brixton, I went to them all, but they obviously did a whole lot more on a face to face basis with their fans (for crack money)).

Killers, Rihananananananana and Mumford are headlining T.

What the fuck has gone on there? How do The Killers still get headline slots? They have headlined every festival on every stage for the last five years. Who the fuck wants to see them again? Awful. Awful. Awful.