The Music

this is thread has inspired me to relisten to loads of albums from the early 00s over the festive period once i've finished with all the end of year lists and there's a bit of a breather before all the new releases start again.

going to go for some of....

brmc
the music
the coral
cooper temple clause
interpol
strokes
white stripes
the hives
the vines
the datsuns
hope of the states

basically i'm going to relive the nme's new rock revolution. might even listen to the thrills, athlete and turin brakes if things get really bad.

I had this need after reading Meet Me In The Bathroom, then a load of stuff leaked & I got sidetracked. The early 2000s were a good time for me to start going clubbing, the bands about then fit the dancefloor perfectly.

I’m staggered that we haven’t seen a mini-rock revolution since 2001 - 2003 - countless rock bands appearing in the top 20, its almost 2018. Wtf is happening.

There was nothing new or inventive or arguably great.....but fuck me it was big, dumb, fun, and catchy as fuck. Forget cities, you had new indie night clubs opening in every town across the country.

Staggered.

yeah i do feel sorry for kids growing up who are into guitar music nowadays. catfish and the bottlemen and blossoms are about all they've got in the way of young bands for them.

Fuck, I guess it was your youth, but do really The Music fit more with the big The's from the early noughties than with the likes of Catfishes?

You gonna go Embrace in Norwich?

A few somewhat forgotten records from the very early 2000s that I was playing a lot at the time


Mull Historical Society - Loss (ColumbiaRocksMan shall never forget!)
Ocean Colour Scene - Mechanical Wonder
Proud Mary - Same Old Blues
Lupine Howl - The Bar At The End Of The World
The Dead 60s
Goldrush - Don't Bring Me Down
The Shining - True Skies
John Squire - Time Changes Everything
The Bandits - & They Walked Away
Alfie - Do You Imagine Things?
The Rain Band - The Rain Ban

The ones below I still stand by being fine records

South - From Here On In
Jesse Malin - The Fine Art Of Self Destruction
ELECTRIC MOTHERFUCKING SOFT PARADE - Holes In The Wall
The Sleepy Jackson - Lovers (might have to give this a listen soon, it has been a while)

Also, wtf happened to Ladytron?

Anyone listened to the Thrills debut in recent years? I wondering if time has been kind to heir sound. They felt kinda lame at the time alongside all the cool American shit that was coming out, plus the couple of times I saw them were pretty dull but I can imagine their record sounding working for Old Man Mahoney.

I totally loved the singles but for some reason never heard the whole record. I should try it.

haha id not noticed embrace were coming back to norwich again. i get tempted every time but have always managed to resist. think the last time i saw them was 2005.

tbh if they did a tour playing good will out in full id be there like a shot.

i still love that first goldrush album btw, it has really good memories for me. i never really listened to south or that sleepy jackson album so might have to give those a go. it might also be time for me to finally reappraise LONGVIEW haha.

you ever revisited the burn album mahoney? i liked them at the time but can imagine them sounding awful now.

on the poncerock front i remember thinking this was one of the greatest things ever at the time



anyone remember these? liverpool's answer to northern uproar!

Yeah the burn record I tried to listen to about 5 years ago and had to turn it off. Even when it came out I remember being disappointed by it.

A funny story regarding them. The Singer quit the band after a gig one night and it turned out that the Rolling Stones tour manager was there. He came up to the band shortly After and asked them to support the stones at the Stade de France a few days later.

I only remember the crescent from you going on about them. Must’ve been the only scouse band in the early 2000s that I wasn’t obsessed with.

The early few singles from THE BASEMENT were awesome, think they were Irish yet sounded scouse

i also remember loving these live the two times i saw them and being hyped for their album but it ended up taking forever and being a bit shit...early singles were good though....



also used to really like these too. i think rod saw them within the last few years and i was surprised to hear they're still going...



this was a big tune for me too back when everyone was just starting to sound like a joy division rip off

Yeah, my mates and I went to Reykjavik a few years ago and they headlined a mini-festival in the hostel's courtyard. I didn't know them first time around (I think they only have about 2 original members left) but really enjoyed their set. They put out an album that year called See You in the Afterglow which reminded me of Doves and which I still play occasionally.

no thread looking back on the early 00s can be complete without mention of this lot. the greatest band to never release an album....

I've always really liked that Thrills album.  I remember copying it from CD to cassette to play in my Dads car because he didn't have a CD player.  Same with the Kings of Leon debut.

Going back to The Thrills, I hadn't listened to the debut in a long old time until this morning.  When it came out and I was obsessed with it, I was working in a factory on a food production line making ready meals for supermarkets.  It was a weird shift, something like 5pm - 11:30pm. 

I used to spend all day getting stoned, go to work then come and continue getting stoned.  It was round about this time that I properly started getting into music.  As well as The Thrills debut, and as mentioned above, Kings of Leon, I was listening a lot to the debut albums from BRMC and The Datsuns.  But, there was something about The Thrills that captivated me and i listened to that a lot more than anything else.

Anyway, this was also around the time that I fell in love for the very first time.  She was my first proper girlfriend and we were together, on and off, for probably a year.  Due to the fact I would be busy get stoned all day, and working at night, we used to meet up at midnight a couple of nights a week.  It was convenient because I passed her house on my way home from work.

We used to wander about the streets, sometimes with some booze, for hours.  When we weren't being randy teenagers in back streets or school fields, I'd always be going on about all the new music I was listening to.  She wasn't that interested but I'd tell her all about all this new music I was getting into and play her stuff on a Sony Walkman through a shitty little speaker I always had on me to listen to music outside on my breaks at work.  The Thrills were one of the only bands she ever liked that I played her.
  
She ended up dumping me on Valentines Day, by text.  It definitely had nothing to do with the fact I was more interested in getting stoned than spending proper time with her.  It was the first time I think I'd felt true heartbreak.  For about 2 weeks after, I'd get pissed or stoned and listen to The Thrills, probably in floods of tears.  It didn't help that not long after me, she had a one night stand with one of my mates, and then started banging another one of my mates on a regular basis.  I heard from another friend that one time he was smashing her outside and she got stung on her tit after a wasp.  That made me smile.

So yeah, I pretty much stopped listening to The Thrills' debut for a long time, but had a very enjoyable listen through this morning.  Great album.  I also know that the girl from the above story now has 4 kids to 2 different Dads and has absolutely let herself go and is pretty much a fucking mess. 

Serves you right for breaking my teenage heart you cunt 

just had a listen to the thrills debut in the context of washing up on a sunday morning as a bald man in his thirties with a toddler running about as opposed to an 18 year old 6th former full of spunk and a longview obsession.

have to admit it was a pretty enjoyable listen. i remember at the time enjoying the singles but feeling a bit underwhelmed by the album. i can certainly imagine tucker having a crywank to the "tell me where it all went wrong" opening line on santa cruz. glad to hear tucker got the last laugh though helping out hobos in san francisco rather than being a mess with 4 kids to different dads.

I think kids into guitar music now have it good.

You get near the front of a Ty Segall/Mikal Cronin/Wand/Oh Sees,etc gig and teenagers are losing it. I remember being at a No Age gig (with Kev actually) a few years back, with Male Bonding supporting and the kids up the front were going nuts it. Same with Parquet Cpurts at the 100 club.

There's more of an outsider feel to guitar music now, more DIY and punk aesthetic than there ever was with most of the bands mentioned further up in this thread (except for the Libs for a short time).

I reckon guitar music's in rude health. It's more away from the mainstream, but that's not a bad thing.

It always comes down to production values for me, those albums that are able to transcend their own time are always ones that have a more unique feel. It's an obvious suggestion, but all art that stands the test of time manages to capture a timeless quality, something that is informed by its time, but is able to exist outside of it.

Take that Thrills record for example, I listened to a few of the tunes a few months back when having a bit of a nostalgia quest and the songs are OK, nothing special, but certainly not bad. And I've always really likes Santa Cruz, but the album is essentially let down by pretty beige production. At the time they were being sold as a sort of Strokesy 'gang' but with sunshine melodies and you know they were probably just thrown in the studio and told to get a record out as quickly as possible.

Those records are harder to spot when you're in the midst of it all, they only start to reveal themselves over the passing of time, as they begin to exist in a different world to the one's in which they were conceived and created. There are loads of records that I used to love when mired in that headspace, but just never listen to anymore, the debut records from The Vines, the Zutons and Mando Diao jump out.

There are records from that era that I have always constantly (relatively so) listened to that have never waned, the first two Strokes records, Up the Bracket, The first two YYY's records, the first three Coral records, first three Electric Soft Parade records (especially the second album) and Brakes records, as obvious examples that spring to mind and then bands who have crafted lasting careers such as BSP.

After reading that 'Meet Me in the Bathroom Book', it made me go back and re-listen to two bands who I'd always dipped my toes into, but never delved deeply, Interpol & the Rapture and I've ended up really loving them a lot more now than I ever did back then. The debuts of both bands are obviously well regarded, but I've had great fun rediscovering them over the recent months.

Guys, can we stick to topic please? This thread is about THE MUSIC. Not the fucking Thrills. I could just have messaged Andy on twitter if I wanted opinions on their debut.

Bob, delete the last 12 messages. Thnx