Female Radiohead

and i bet that male-oriented acts easily outnumber female-oriented ones by a similar amount (at least).

way, way more guys than girls have ambitions to be in a band in the first place imo.*

*whether this psychological tendency is something that itself is a deeply ingrained by-product of a male-centric industry is another, very valid, debate entirely.

Eh? Look at most peoples top 50 on lastfm on here. Not a great deal of female artists. I'm not offering the answers I'm just giving the facts, there should be more females making great music.

Or maybe women are happy to be the bass player/keyboardist & look pretty in the background for eternity

also, any list of "legendary" artists depends entirely on who you ask to draw it up. we're basing this thread on what we'd probably silently agree on as the forum's list of classic acts.

you could ask someone else and they might say "kylie, beyonce, britney, alisha keys, madonna, etc, etc" and not even consider mentioning the rolling stones or whatever.

fans of alternative guitar-based pop/rock or whatever tend to be mainly men (just take a cross section of male/female members of this forum over time), and it stands to reason that the ratio of great music in a particular genre is going to be relative to its fanbase.

Icons are created by the press and the audience. It is true that for every female artist I mentioned you can name at least 7 or 8 iconic men, but lets face the truth, if those women were men, they would be regared as undisputed leaders and not just as "female counterparts to xxx". If Bjork was a man, she would be considered a reincarnation of Beethoven and 10 times superior to Thom Yorke. If Joni Mitchel was a man, she would be considered the greatest songwriter ever, instead of being considered the female version of Bob Dylan. Women really have to pull out things twice as good as men to get half the credit.

If you go back in time, there's even more. Elizabeth Cotten has created a unique finger-picking style that many men have tried to imitate (and some died trying eh!). But she never gets mentioned when talking about the Delta Blues greats. Sister Rosetta Tharpe was an astonishing electric guitar player who invented the windmill, later stolen by Pete Townshend. yet no one knows her, but we perfectly know a shitloads of mediocre men who played the same kind of music she played.

With the misogynist culture we live in, it's a miracle that there has been so many genius women, since the culture trend says that a woman's main goal in life is motherhood.

i'd pass a lot of the reason for record companies and their male dominated boards and their views on what sells etc.

i mean, nico is a perfect example of that. first she was the pretty girl in VU, then her first solo album was filled with songs written/produced to her by men. then she was all "fuck this shit" and produced an infinitely better album just by herself. i guess it must be a lot more difficult for a female artist who takes risks to get published in proper way

I remember a few (ten, at least) years ago someone commented that my record collection was a giant sausage party...and the only woman in it was sheryl crow('s greatest hits), and she'd probaby *slept* with half the other records in my collection.

I don't think it was really that bad, but it did get me to wondering why that was the case. In the meantime, I discovered PJ Harvey, Portishead and a bunch of others, but it is a valid question to ask.

"If Joni Mitchel was a man, she would be considered the greatest songwriter ever, instead of being considered the female version of Bob Dylan. "


If Joni Mitchell was a man, she'd be James Taylor. Let's not go nuts here.

no, I agree with you. But it was just a little dig at "your women refereeing etc."

if bob dylan had perky tits and a great ass, she'd be a big improvement tbh.

Then you clearly don't know her whole discography. Maybe you just know Blue because you have seen it listed on Mojo's "100 records you should hear before you die".

also, you could transpose this thread to authors or (especially) film directors and it'd be just as true.

I think it may be you who clearly doesn't know Dylan. ;D

well, I also guess this is the same argument as why led zeppelin are famous multimillionaires and those black dudes who wrote their albums probably died poor in the gutter.

When you put it that way AndygoingNowhere.. Women, clearly still not as creative or as powerful as the male.

High five guys.

I'd bet my external hard-drives on Shenandoah knowing more & listening to Dylan more than you ever have.