Female Radiohead

it would've been great to see this thread back in the old days. a hundred pictures of charlotte hatherley, a short discussion on how republica never lived up to their early potential, and a debate on whether lisa moorish ruins the warchild version of fade away.

You are right, sound wise she is very much similar in style to James Taylor but Joni is often cited as the female Dylan, which perhaps is lazy but still a compliant to be called the female version of what is regarded as the best songwriter of all time. I think the point Simone was trying to make is that had she been male she could of been regarded higher (or even as highly) instead of being 'a female version of' anything.

You can book Republica for a few grand to play party's still to this day. They had a couple of mega hits. Might get them to play the pub before the BDI gigs.

awesome, when i have kids i'm gonna book them for their first birthday parties.

I don't think she would be, though. If I look at her objectively, and I think I can, she's written some really good songs, has a couple of all-timer level albums....and a whole lot of shit. I didn't mean that she sounds sonically the same as James Taylor (though she does, to a degree), but she's at that level in terms of "the all-timers". She could have 4 penises and still not be in the same discussion as Dylan. Mainly because there's 3-4 people *total* who ever get to that level. (Lennon/Mac, and *maybe* Neil.)


A more interesting case is Carole King. Shouldn't she be up there with the all-time greats? She was half-responsible for an entire *genre* before the dylans/beatles of the world even existed.

I'm not even massive into Joni Mitchell, I was just re-enforcing Simone's post due to Andy making one usual one line shit posts that offer nothing other than making himself look a prat.

Neil Young is on an entire different playing field to every songwriter ever in my book but different songwriters for different tastes.

I'm with Karl in nearly every post he has made in this thread

edit: that was just too dull

specially the first comment about the proportion, the one about film writers and the Andy-owning

Are you thinking of booking Republica as well?

Safron was a visionary, a huge influence on Lady Gaga.

much better now

I have never heard about them/her but I'm booking them for tomorrow if possible

it's becuz men has penises and women were scared theyd rape them so they stayed at home

Along with Babylon Zoo they should of dominated the 90's. I don't think the public was ready for either.

Well, if you think that Blue, Hissing of Summer Lawns, Court and Spark, Hejira, Don Juan's Reckless Daughter etc are just collections of pleasant songs then there's really nothing much to say. To me, they are easily the pinnacle of 70s songwriting and the only songwriters who could rival her output are actually Bob Dylan and Neil Young.

And the James Taylor comparison is rather gratuitous, just because they were friends in real life doesn't mean they sound alike. I've never seen James Taylor playing with world class jazz musicians, never seen him tributed from people like Herbie Hancock, Jaco Pastorius, Pat Metheny, Bob Dylan, Robbie Robertson (of The Band fame) etc etc, never seen him inventing different and exclusive tunings to play the guitar and the list can go on forever. Only thing I've seen him doing is losing a copious amount of hair and playing bland covers of Joni Mitchell.

There's a very good point Joni makes which is written in "On The Road With Bob Dylan" (since you're a Dylan fan, I assume you have read it) where Ratso (the writer) says to Joni his 3 favourite male songwriters and his 3 favourite female songwriters, and she gets mad at him because there's no really need to separate the women from the men, as if they were 2 different categories. But then again, we're just educated in thinking that women play on an inferior level compared to men, and even the best female artist can't rival the mediocre men, let alone the best ones. It would be like saying that I can't trust your opinions that much because you're from Canada, which is an effeminate, pale, bland version of the United States.

I love you, Simone, but you're being a little harsh today

I would have loved you more if you weren't from Spain, which is clearly Europe's Uruguay.

I was not looking for this but will do

I had no idea Shenandoah was a female called Simone

Uruguay > Spain though