Biggest genius in the history of music?

you havent really mentioned a single band I'd think of when someone says "psychedelic" to me rolli. the pretty thing I like, the move (imagine me making a larry david sound of non-commitall) are ok but roy woods a charlatan, a talented charlatan but still one, he was a pop musician who made good tunes but was forever trying to be in the latest trend. the others are hippies and hippies=prog.

rape your ratios and get the nuggets, pebbles and rubble series of compilations. get into california sunshine pop, thats what I mean by psych. and stop listening to pink floyd.

you're arguing about something you know literally nothing about.

I had no idea about them using YAWN. I doubt a load of public school boys like them would have had a clue about its football connection though.

i have nuggets all those bands appear on them. my white bicycle > life

king crimson and hawkwind are NOT! on any nuggets compilation. you must surely agree that the move are actually a mainstream pop band? roy wood always did a good job at fitting in with the times


rubble and pebbles are far more obscure than rubble. theres stuff on pebbles even the compilers arent sure about the origins.

you've now made two posts entirely based on knocking down something I havent said. the only person who mentioned the mamas and the papas is you.

they are commercially the most succesful band who adopted that style after starting out as a folk band.

only in your mind is the most commercial example of something the best example of it.

my favourite sunshine pop album and after a clear out of my old vinyl a few years back the only thing I have two copies of:

thealwaysbluesociety.blogspot.com/2008/03/millenium-begin-1968.html

what about my reply to rolli was unclear and needs explanation? that this amongst other bands was what I thought of when I thought of psychedelic music, and not the move or king crimson. and certainly not PUBLIC SCHOOLBOY MASS MARKET PROG HORSESHIT

This thread is a bomb scare. Pink Floyd are miles better than most and Death From Above 1979 are also rather great. 9/10.

thread destroyed

i don't like pink floyd.

The Ax, The Ax, The Ax is on fire! Got Meddle on right now, this one goes out to you ax-man you are my fearless pillow of winds xx

Yeah Zappa has made some great music, also some ott self indulgent shit as well though & without trying to sound like an arsehole here I thought that would appeal to big Floyd fans.

I've changed my views slightly on floyd has years have gone by, I used be be totally against them & whilst they will never be a band who's music appeals to my tastes perfectly I am no longer offended by them & don't mind hearing them from time to time. < sellout.

I'd just like to clear up before I make this post, my views on U2 still have not changed.

Thing is with Zappa whether you like his music or not, he is an actual musical genius because he simply did and could do so much, he dipped into and explored more avenues and styles of music than anyone ever, was insanely prolific, could play loads of instruments to a high standard, could write musical parts in his head, he was a classical composer, in the sense that like Mozhart or Beathoven, he could write for an entire orchestra in his head onto noted paper, when he was injured after being pushed off stage he wrote 2 albums from his bed without playing an instrument, both Jazz albums, one for a small 4/5 piece band (Waka Jawaka) and one for a giant ensemble (The Grand Wazoo) and he done it all with tonnes of experimentation, he was experimenting and using the studio as an instrument before Pink Floyd ever entered a studio (I have nothing against Floyd though) and he released so many albums that were utterly unique from each other ranging from Pysch, pop, doo wop, avante garde, funk, soul, jazz, jazz fusion, hard rock, and thats just a handful of stuff that you can actually catagories, there is nobody in the history of popular music who had the scope and the technical ability in all aspects (playing, writing, composing, wit, guts..) to pull it off.

Now wether you like his music or not is a different matter, but its impossible to deny his raw musical ability and how it dwarves most people

This may be true but Van Halen is a genius on the guitar, this doesn't mean he has written even one good song ever.

Yeah, but its quite clear to anyone with ears that Zappa has not only written great songs, but at least a handful of truly great albums

watch it andy.

panama>>>>>>>every mccartney tune since 1980.

noel gallagher.

Yah, but also the thing with Zappa is that, yeah stuff like Don't Eat Yellow Snow is pretty average, but you can't really judge him a single song or a single album, because a song like that, was recorded in a moment and is a unique sound or vision to a particular moment, and so Hot Rats sounds nothing like it, and Freak Out sounds nothing like either of them and We're Only In It For The Money sounds nothing like any of those and Uncle Meat is completely different from all those etc.. Slightly off tangent, but I don't for the life of me know why Don't Eat Yellow Snow is his most popular work because apart from being weak, its not even that poppy or easy listening like some of his other stuff and Its rubbish that he's judged soley on that type of playful jokey stuff (Though the album that proceeds 'Apostrophe', 'Overnight Sensation' that is similar in sound as it was recorded at the same time, i do enjoy)