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« May 13, 2012 9:20:40 GMT »
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« May 16, 2012 22:29:24 GMT »
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Rangers appeal on transfer embargo rejected.

Correct decision imo.

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« May 17, 2012 19:20:12 GMT »
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You hear the Conference approached Rangers to join their league? Rangers turned them down.

They don't do Woking away.

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« May 17, 2012 21:54:08 GMT »
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Ive got to be honest i fucking despise Rangers and everything they stand for! But it'll be a sad day if Rangers go under. It's good to hear they have had an accepted offer but they are still a long way from safety. The transfer ban i feel is pretty fair considering how many rules they have broken :D and i think they should just accept next season or 2 are gone and take time to rebuild and carry on. As for a Newco it's probably their best bet financially and to wipe a clean slate but with it goes their history which would be a disaster (for them)

Scottish football is completely on it's knees. When Rangers couldn't pay the ticket allocation for an away game at Dunfermline,the home team couldnt afford to pay their own players' wages which shows how much they rely on both sides of the old firm. Like i said it's good to watch them squirm and the great unwashed making up wee songs on youtube,but the fact of the matter is if either set of old firm fans boycott the away games next season...Your Hibs,Kilmarnock,Dunfermline etc will quickly be in a similar situation to the huns and there will be no SPL.

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« Jun 12, 2012 13:29:13 GMT »
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« Jun 12, 2012 16:57:53 GMT »
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From BBC:

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A-A-And, Rangers will have a vote when the SPL clubs decide on a newco Rangers being admitted to Scotland's top league.

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The SPL have told BBC Scotland's ace reporter Alasdair Lamont that Rangers will be in the SPL fixture list when it is issued on Monday.


What the utter fuck? In a short space of time this club won't exist.

Anything less than division 3 for a Newco is an absolute joke.

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From BBC:

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A-A-And, Rangers will have a vote when the SPL clubs decide on a newco Rangers being admitted to Scotland's top league.

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The SPL have told BBC Scotland's ace reporter Alasdair Lamont that Rangers will be in the SPL fixture list when it is issued on Monday.


What the utter fuck? In a short space of time this club won't exist.

Anything less than division 3 for a Newco is an absolute joke.


I agree but I can't see the clubs voting for it sadly.

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« Jun 12, 2012 23:37:38 GMT »
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I'd rather Divison 3 than stay in the SPL with 15 odd point sanctions for X amount of years. We've been royally fucked by our past 2 owners and we'll have to take our medicine. The club will carry on, the serial number of the Plc may change but that means fuck all to me. I thought I'd be gutted at this but I've been gearing myself up for it for months so it's a kind of resignation now. Interesting to see what happens now. There's going to be a lot more twists in this now as to who will own us by the end of the year

HRMC denying the CVA means that they can now pursue individuals rather than the club. If the CVA was passed then we'd still be tied up in all that. Murray and Whyte will be hounded by HRMC til they die now. Only saving grace in this whole thing

Jelly and ice cream is what they have at children's parties David, not surprising you Tims love it so much given your past

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« Jun 13, 2012 6:43:15 GMT »
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Solutions expert on Newsnight Scotland last night reckoned Sir David Murray and Craig Whyte could be looking at jail time come the end of this.

Had to laugh at the RST weirdo - "Rangers have been punished enough already" - What? A 10 point deduction? Which meant fuck all in the grand scheme of things. A couple of fines that you can no longer pay due to no longer existing? The only thing Rangers have been punished with so far is the statuary punishment for administration. They still haven't answered for the EBT/Dual contract issue, nor withholding PAYE for 9 months.

A 15 point deduction cannot be allowed to happen. This would be for the benefit of one club only, Celtic. If Green gets his wish and is able to start buying players as early as this season, then chances are Rangers would still walk 2nd place. What a joke.

I'm not too bothered about Rangers keeping this history or not, but surely if trophies from oldco get transferred to newco, then liabilities need to go along with it? Totally bapit if nae.

Sporting integrity is a phrase that is tainted now in Scotland, mainly due to Celtic thinking a few years ago that forcing a team to play 5 matches in 9 days was what it meant. What it means to me, on a most basic level, is that the rules of the game must apply equally to all teams, without fear or favour. If Rangers are playing SPL football next season, I'm out. It's horrible knowing I've put thousands of pounds into a league run solely for the benefit of two clubs. What a mug. Melbourne Victory and Essendon for me.

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« Jun 13, 2012 7:20:29 GMT »
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Solutions expert on Newsnight Scotland last night reckoned Sir David Murray and Craig Whyte could be looking at jail time come the end of this.

Had to laugh at the RST weirdo - "Rangers have been punished enough already" - What? A 10 point deduction? Which meant fuck all in the grand scheme of things. A couple of fines that you can no longer pay due to no longer existing? The only thing Rangers have been punished with so far is the statuary punishment for administration. They still haven't answered for the EBT/Dual contract issue, nor withholding PAYE for 9 months.

A 15 point deduction cannot be allowed to happen. This would be for the benefit of one club only, Celtic. If Green gets his wish and is able to start buying players as early as this season, then chances are Rangers would still walk 2nd place. What a joke.

I'm not too bothered about Rangers keeping this history or not, but surely if trophies from oldco get transferred to newco, then liabilities need to go along with it? Totally bapit if nae.

Sporting integrity is a phrase that is tainted now in Scotland, mainly due to Celtic thinking a few years ago that forcing a team to play 5 matches in 9 days was what it meant. What it means to me, on a most basic level, is that the rules of the game must apply equally to all teams, without fear or favour. If Rangers are playing SPL football next season, I'm out. It's horrible knowing I've put thousands of pounds into a league run solely for the benefit of two clubs. What a mug. Melbourne Victory and Essendon for me.


As I said, we'll take our medicine but that transfer ban, fuck off, you can't just start making up rules as you go along. If the SFA were in anyway capable they'd have hit us with a punishment that was in their rule book. As you say rules must be applied equally. Not make one up cos one of the bigger fish is in the dock. did livi, Motherwell, dundee get his with a transfer ban when they went into admin? Nope, so why should we accept it. I do agree all our football debts should be paid in full (to Rapid Vienna etc) but I want Whyte brought for not paying tax. That's not on and I am still unsure how he got away with it for so long.

The SFA can ban us or expel us from the league or Cup. If they choose to then that's what we'll have to accept it. But they probably won't cos they want a cash cow that us and Celtic bring to the table. Sporting integrity, haha, don't make me laugh. Those who use that phrase are the total opposite of what it means. I refuse to take morality lessons from the likes of Lennon and Lawell.

I can understand that you'd be pissed off, it's not like any of us wanted to not pay Tax or NI. We just got shafted by 2 men out for themselves. I just want to get back to talking about Rangers playing football, whether it's SPL or Div 3

As for the whole history thing, how can folk actually start saying you can or can't transfer history? Is anyone going to take away the way I felt when Laudrup scored the header to win 9In A Row or when I sat in Parkhead watching us get humped 6-2? The history remains no matter what

But most importantly: Victory and Bombers? Good lord!

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« Jun 13, 2012 7:46:43 GMT »
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If Rangers are playing SPL football next season, I'm out. It's horrible knowing I've put thousands of pounds into a league run solely for the benefit of two clubs. What a mug. Melbourne Victory and Essendon for me.


bye bye then. :D

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What a mug. Melbourne Victory and Essendon for me.

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« Jun 13, 2012 11:06:28 GMT »
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The two people who have fucked Rangers up the most?

Mr Green and Mr Whyte. Clearly a plot by those dastardly Fenians.

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« Jun 13, 2012 12:32:06 GMT »
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There definitely a conspiracy. I'm blaming the Pope

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« Jun 13, 2012 13:03:43 GMT »
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Solutions expert on Newsnight Scotland last night reckoned Sir David Murray and Craig Whyte could be looking at jail time come the end of this.

Had to laugh at the RST weirdo - "Rangers have been punished enough already" - What? A 10 point deduction? Which meant fuck all in the grand scheme of things. A couple of fines that you can no longer pay due to no longer existing? The only thing Rangers have been punished with so far is the statuary punishment for administration. They still haven't answered for the EBT/Dual contract issue, nor withholding PAYE for 9 months.

A 15 point deduction cannot be allowed to happen. This would be for the benefit of one club only, Celtic. If Green gets his wish and is able to start buying players as early as this season, then chances are Rangers would still walk 2nd place. What a joke.

I'm not too bothered about Rangers keeping this history or not, but surely if trophies from oldco get transferred to newco, then liabilities need to go along with it? Totally bapit if nae.

Sporting integrity is a phrase that is tainted now in Scotland, mainly due to Celtic thinking a few years ago that forcing a team to play 5 matches in 9 days was what it meant. What it means to me, on a most basic level, is that the rules of the game must apply equally to all teams, without fear or favour. If Rangers are playing SPL football next season, I'm out. It's horrible knowing I've put thousands of pounds into a league run solely for the benefit of two clubs. What a mug. Melbourne Victory and Essendon for me.


As I said, we'll take our medicine but that transfer ban, fuck off, you can't just start making up rules as you go along. If the SFA were in anyway capable they'd have hit us with a punishment that was in their rule book. As you say rules must be applied equally. Not make one up cos one of the bigger fish is in the dock. did livi, Motherwell, dundee get his with a transfer ban when they went into admin? Nope, so why should we accept it. I do agree all our football debts should be paid in full (to Rapid Vienna etc) but I want Whyte brought for not paying tax. That's not on and I am still unsure how he got away with it for so long. The SFA can ban us or expel us from the league or Cup. If they choose to then that's what we'll have to accept it. But they probably won't cos they want a cash cow that us and Celtic bring to the table. Sporting integrity, haha, don't make me laugh. Those who use that phrase are the total opposite of what it means. I refuse to take morality lessons from the likes of Lennon and Lawell.

I can understand that you'd be pissed off, it's not like any of us wanted to not pay Tax or NI. We just got shafted by 2 men out for themselves. I just want to get back to talking about Rangers playing football, whether it's SPL or Div 3

As for the whole history thing, how can folk actually start saying you can or can't transfer history? Is anyone going to take away the way I felt when Laudrup scored the header to win 9In A Row or when I sat in Parkhead watching us get humped 6-2? The history remains no matter what

But most importantly: Victory and Bombers? Good lord!


Of course you know that the transfer embargo had absolutely nothing to do with going into an administration though, so naturally and obviously it wasn't a punishment handed out to Livi/Dundee/Motherwell. It was solely due to Craig Whyte withholding the PAYE tax for 9 months. I agree that the SFA should've had punishments explicitly written into their rule book for such situations, but the punishments that they did have written were either far too leniant, or marginally exessive given the charge. Now the SFA have either expulsion from the Scottish cup (one game ban effectively) or suspension from the league. If I was Rangers fan I would've thanked my lucky stars to get such a nothing punishment as a one year embargo. Appealing that could be the biggest own goal in your history, especially given that it's pissed off UEFA in the process.

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Yes I am aware of that. This punishment they tried to pull was for bringing the game into disrepute. Hearts didn't pay their players and didn't pay tax, had HRMC calling their door. They didn't get hit with a made up rule. As for bringing the game into disrepute I'd say questioning the a refs ethics and parity and causing a strike is definitely up there with a severe punishments. What did we get? Fuck all and Lawell on the board

As I said, hit us with what's in the rule book. It's not our fault the SFA are spastics. But don't make up a rule that basically plays on the fact all our players will be leaving.

"oh your squad has all left? Well you can't sign anyone else"
"eh? Where does it state that in the rule book? "
"it doesn't, we'll just make it up"
"aye ok"

UEFA think they are beyond the law in countries and are even more inept and corrupt than the SFA. I'd love it for them to try and overturn a Law Court ruling. Look at jean Marc Bosman, I would like to see us go down that route. But it won't sadly

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« Jun 14, 2012 6:38:47 GMT »
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Yes I am aware of that. This punishment they tried to pull was for bringing the game into disrepute. Hearts didn't pay their players and didn't pay tax, had HRMC calling their door. They didn't get hit with a made up rule. As for bringing the game into disrepute I'd say questioning the a refs ethics and parity and causing a strike is definitely up there with a severe punishments. What did we get? Fuck all and Lawell on the board

As I said, hit us with what's in the rule book. It's not our fault the SFA are spastics. But don't make up a rule that basically plays on the fact all our players will be leaving.

"oh your squad has all left? Well you can't sign anyone else"
"eh? Where does it state that in the rule book? "
"it doesn't, we'll just make it up"
"aye ok"

UEFA think they are beyond the law in countries and are even more inept and corrupt than the SFA. I'd love it for them to try and overturn a Law Court ruling. Look at jean Marc Bosman, I would like to see us go down that route. But it won't sadly


Well why did you even mention Dundee and co?

There is nothing in the rule book that fits the crime... The SFA said as much. I entirely agree that the SFA are completely inept by not having a sufficient rule, but you take a look at the rules that do exist for this:
One season ban from the Scottish Cup
Suspension from the league
Expulsion from the league

You talk about taking your medicine, the SFA have to choose from the 3 options above. Now, you've gotta admit that a ban from the Scottish Cup is an absolute joke punishment considering Rangers stole £9m from the taxman's purse over 9 months. So forcing the SFA to choose what's in their rule book might not be the wisest move you've ever made.

In re: to Hearts, I don't think the SFA had any mention that paying your players late was an offence (again, because they are a shambles). This has since been changed for 2012/13 so hopefully Hearts do get the rule book thrown at them.

Celtic, well that's another issue. That ref thing still leaves a sour taste in the mouth and I believe they're still benefiting from having the ref's scared shitless of them. SFA barely acted against them and were wrong to do so. It's hardly in the same league as withholding all PAYE for three quarters of a season though is it?!

:D :D

Deflect deflect deflect - let's keep this about Rangers. Celtic are shitebags, I agree.

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