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« Jun 14, 2012 8:09:13 GMT »
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I'm not trying to deflect, just trying to show that all we want is a level playing field and treated within the rules. If the rules state something then no fucking way will I accept them being changed to suit other folks agenda. How many times do I have to say, I'm totally with you on the non payment of tax, every single Bear I know it's embarrassed by it. But you say we didn't pay £9 million in PAYE...do you actually think Rangers saw any of that? Craig Whyte has that somewhere else, along with the 1st payment of the Jelavic money. Us fans, club, Coisty are being punished for him. Yes Rangers should be held accountable but SFA don't seem to want to puruse him with any conviction

Hit us with punishment in the rule book. I'll take the Scottish Cup ban :D will the SFA chuck us out? You think they'll have the baws?

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« Jun 14, 2012 8:13:41 GMT »
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« Jun 14, 2012 12:12:14 GMT »
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I'm not trying to deflect, just trying to show that all we want is a level playing field and treated within the rules. If the rules state something then no fucking way will I accept them being changed to suit other folks agenda. How many times do I have to say, I'm totally with you on the non payment of tax, every single Bear I know it's embarrassed by it. But you say we didn't pay £9 million in PAYE...do you actually think Rangers saw any of that? Craig Whyte has that somewhere else, along with the 1st payment of the Jelavic money. Us fans, club, Coisty are being punished for him. Yes Rangers should be held accountable but SFA don't seem to want to puruse him with any conviction

Hit us with punishment in the rule book. I'll take the Scottish Cup ban :D will the SFA chuck us out? You think they'll have the baws?


Before Rangers appealed, I would've said definitely not. In fact, the reason they dreamed up the embargo was because they took one look at the options and shat it because there was no middle ground available to them. However, they're on record saying that expulsion from the Scottish Cup is far too leniant given the charge, so they'd look like even bigger eejits if they went with that now.

It's funny you ask for a level playing field - do you think we'd even be having this conversation if it was St.Mirren who were liquidated? Newco Rangers are being given the chance of a vote to stay in the SPL purely because of who they are. Any other club would be shunted down the divisions at the end of the season so fast it'd make their heads spin

For the record, I do feel genuinely sympathy for the decent Rangers fans out there, yourself and a few others I know etc. You have been royally arse-fucked by two of the biggest conmen in the game... funny thing is, Charles Green has the potential to make Whyte and Murray look like world class business men. He's an utter shyster too.

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« Jun 14, 2012 12:42:16 GMT »
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I'm not trying to deflect, just trying to show that all we want is a level playing field and treated within the rules. If the rules state something then no fucking way will I accept them being changed to suit other folks agenda. How many times do I have to say, I'm totally with you on the non payment of tax, every single Bear I know it's embarrassed by it. But you say we didn't pay £9 million in PAYE...do you actually think Rangers saw any of that? Craig Whyte has that somewhere else, along with the 1st payment of the Jelavic money. Us fans, club, Coisty are being punished for him. Yes Rangers should be held accountable but SFA don't seem to want to puruse him with any conviction

Hit us with punishment in the rule book. I'll take the Scottish Cup ban :D will the SFA chuck us out? You think they'll have the baws?


Before Rangers appealed, I would've said definitely not. In fact, the reason they dreamed up the embargo was because they took one look at the options and shat it because there was no middle ground available to them. However, they're on record saying that expulsion from the Scottish Cup is far too leniant given the charge, so they'd look like even bigger eejits if they went with that now.

It's funny you ask for a level playing field - do you think we'd even be having this conversation if it was St.Mirren who were liquidated? Newco Rangers are being given the chance of a vote to stay in the SPL purely because of who they are. Any other club would be shunted down the divisions at the end of the season so fast it'd make their heads spin

For the record, I do feel genuinely sympathy for the decent Rangers fans out there, yourself and a few others I know etc. You have been royally arse-fucked by two of the biggest conmen in the game... funny thing is, Charles Green has the potential to make Whyte and Murray look like world class business men. He's an utter shyster too.


Nope cos I wouldn't be bothering about another clubs affairs.

Don't pretend that the vote is entirely about helping Rangers stay in the SPL or not. It's about whether clubs want to keep the income and sponsorship money that we generate. Daily Record saying Sky are threatening to pull out ( aye I know, Daily record)

Well rumour is Green is wanting to sack Coisty and Ally has resigned (or not). Another cunt who'll fuck us over. Just stick us in Div 3 and let us enjoy the rebuilding, seriously, I'd rather that than what's happening right now. If Ally McCoist is forced out then I give up, he deserves so much more than what he's had in the past 6 months

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« Jun 14, 2012 17:28:50 GMT »
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Before Rangers appealed, I would've said definitely not. In fact, the reason they dreamed up the embargo was because they took one look at the options and shat it because there was no middle ground available to them. However, they're on record saying that expulsion from the Scottish Cup is far too leniant given the charge, so they'd look like even bigger eejits if they went with that now.

It's funny you ask for a level playing field - do you think we'd even be having this conversation if it was St.Mirren who were liquidated? Newco Rangers are being given the chance of a vote to stay in the SPL purely because of who they are. Any other club would be shunted down the divisions at the end of the season so fast it'd make their heads spin

For the record, I do feel genuinely sympathy for the decent Rangers fans out there, yourself and a few others I know etc. You have been royally arse-fucked by two of the biggest conmen in the game... funny thing is, Charles Green has the potential to make Whyte and Murray look like world class business men. He's an utter shyster too.


Nope cos I wouldn't be bothering about another clubs affairs.

Don't pretend that the vote is entirely about helping Rangers stay in the SPL or not. It's about whether clubs want to keep the income and sponsorship money that we generate. Daily Record saying Sky are threatening to pull out ( aye I know, Daily record)

Well rumour is Green is wanting to sack Coisty and Ally has resigned (or not). Another cunt who'll fuck us over. Just stick us in Div 3 and let us enjoy the rebuilding, seriously, I'd rather that than what's happening right now. If Ally McCoist is forced out then I give up, he deserves so much more than what he's had in the past 6
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I'm not pretending anything. I'm just saying that that alone proves that it is not a level playing field. No other clubs in the league would be allowed to shed their debt and still play on. It doesn't matter the reasons behind that, it just proves it's not a level playing field and that the rules of the game don't apply equally to all. That is what is getting other fans' backs up. Celtic can fuck off in all of this - they could've avoided the whole situation by agreeing to the voting changes that were proposed in March.

Division 3 is the best option. Absolutely staggering that anything else is even a possibility at this stage. As you say, it'd be an affront to a competitive league to keep Rangers in the league, but with so much sanctions that Celtic can romp it.

Walter Smith coming into it now :D Say what you want about the whole saga - it ain't been dull.

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« Jun 14, 2012 21:32:07 GMT »
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Just woke up to see Walter is back, yer spot on, it's never been dull. And still a hellva long way to go. At least Walter has the best interests of us all at heart.

I think the majority of Bears agree with you and me, put us in Div 3. We just don't want made up rules forced on us and sanctions that basically benefit one club that you mention.

Edit: the reason why there's still talk of us being voted into the SPL is solely down to money. Everyone wants us hammered but still wants the money that's involved if we are in the SPL. Money talks in the game now. Everything else is a sideshow

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« Jun 21, 2012 22:27:01 GMT »
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« Jun 22, 2012 8:16:07 GMT »
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interesting to see how this vote goes. >:(

back to 3rd division would be hilarious. :D

i reckon they'll get the backing though. ;D

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« Jun 24, 2012 10:37:21 GMT »
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Rangers should be taking this decision out of the hands of clubs looking to 'do them over' and go into the third division voluntarily. They can't play in Europe for 3 years anyway and would probably go straight up through the leagues.

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« Jun 24, 2012 10:39:49 GMT »
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interesting to see how this vote goes. >:(

back to 3rd division would be hilarious. :D

i reckon they'll get the backing though. ;D

I don't, i think a lot of clubs in the league will see it as an opportunity to stick the boot in to Rangers when they are down.

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interesting to see how this vote goes. >:(

back to 3rd division would be hilarious. :D

i reckon they'll get the backing though. ;D

I don't, i think a lot of clubs in the league will see it as an opportunity to stick the boot in to Rangers when they are down.


u could be right. ;D

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« Jun 24, 2012 11:25:30 GMT »
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interesting to see how this vote goes. >:(

back to 3rd division would be hilarious. :D

i reckon they'll get the backing though. ;D

I don't, i think a lot of clubs in the league will see it as an opportunity to stick the boot in to Rangers when they are down.



Or, they see it as completely unnatural and unjust that a club would be allowed to shed £50m of debt, come back debt free and start again in the top division as if nothing has happened.

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Think about it, it'd be madness if it happened. I'd be looking at Aberdeen liquidating asap if it happened. Get rid of the £15million debt we have and resume our place in the SPL as The Aberdeen Football club. Rangers newco would set such a clear precedent that no-one could argue. Can't play in Europe for 3 years? Oh no! Who gives a shite, no Scottish team is going to make an impact there anyway these days.

This isn't about other clubs putting the boot in (not to say people won't be delighted at their demise), it's about the punishment fitting the crime. If you think, as Rangers fan seems to think, they should be playing SPL football next season then the punishment for all this would've been: 10 point deduction (which took them from 2nd in the league to... 2nd in the league) and a £160k fine.

Relegation to the bottom tier is the only option. It's mind boggling that any other option is even being considered. The only other option would be to sanction the hell out of them, but absolute no-one would deem that fair (some Tims I know are gagging for that actually, but no normal people). Sanctioning them just to keep them in the league, but making sure they can't win it, is wrong on so many levels. I can see why Rangers fans would prefer Div 3 to that, it'd be a complete farce.



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« Jun 24, 2012 11:31:36 GMT »
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I think Rangers should be playing third division football next season, but I think Rangers FC should be making that decision themselves and not letting other clubs make it for them. They should volunteer to be relegated.

And clubs do see this as a chance to put the boot in, they are reveling in it, and i think Timothy has played it very smart, saying fuck all hoping the result of the league sink them.

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I think Rangers should be playing third division football next season, but I think Rangers FC should be making that decision themselves and not letting other clubs make it for them. They should volunteer to be relegated.

And clubs do see this as a chance to put the boot in, they are reveling in it, and i think Timothy has played it very smart, saying fuck all hoping the result of the league sink them.


In an ideal world, of course they should volunteer. It's not happening though. Mad Vlad aside (who'd have thunk it), I don't think any Chairman, or official club spokesman, that has made statements have put the boot in yet. Fans yes, but it's the job of fans to put the boot in. I've put up with too much gloating from Gers fans, and drubbings at Ibrox and Pittodrie not to put the boot in! :D that's football.

Celtic will lose the most (financially) if Rangers are in Div 3. Agree they're playing it smart, they can't be seen by their support to be letting Rangers off the hook, but I can guarantee you they'd prefer a heavily sanctioned Rangers in the SPL, rather than see them in Div 3.

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« Jun 25, 2012 9:11:26 GMT »
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I agree Johnny, and most Bears are the same. I want us to go to Div 3 and let us get on with it.I'd happily enjoy the ride of div 3 back up, it'd be a great thing to do. But if that happens then every fan of the other clubs better not complain from that day forth. Sick and tired of every cunt banging on and on about sporting integrity and morals (it's laughable). Once we get punished every cunt can shut the fuck up...but they won't. They'll still talk about us, most of the time they hate Rangers more than they love their own club

Celtic are desperate to use this as an excuse to go to England. But England doesn't want them and they are forgetting you need to give 3 years notice to leave the association

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Celtic are desperate to use this as an excuse to go to England. But England doesn't want them and they are forgetting you need to give 3 years notice to leave the association


what's the buzz on celtic regarding this vote.

will they vote to dump the gers out of the top flight. >:(

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« Jun 25, 2012 15:44:34 GMT »
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It's over as far as the spl is concerned.
But why is it assumed the sfl will accept them?

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« Jun 25, 2012 17:17:15 GMT »
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iain - Is Naismith any good, looks like we're getting him on a free ;)

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« Jun 25, 2012 18:57:08 GMT »
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Word on the street is 'The Rangers' won't even be in a fit enough state to have an SFL application accepted.

Also, when it comes to the actual SPL vote, Celtic are likely to abstain. But that's only because they've been lobbying hard for the other clubs to vote no on their behalf.

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iain - Is Naismith any good, looks like we're getting him on a free ;)


Yes mate, he's a great wee player. Our best. Player past 2 years, including Jelavic :(

Edit to say whether his knees stand up to the Premiership is up for debate


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