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Post by orch on Aug 29, 2010 13:58:26 GMT
Well for starters, any footballer who comes over here to play in our leagues and earn money should never qualify to play for England.
I think five years is too short of a time as well, I think someone who has lived here for ten years or more as a normal citizen is more suited.
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Post by jkr on Aug 29, 2010 14:26:38 GMT
Having played for an English club youth squad should also be mandatory for players not born in England (or something like that).
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Post by bobothy on Aug 29, 2010 14:31:25 GMT
Having played for an English club youth squad should also be mandatory for players not born in England (or something like that). I'd go with this tbh I don't think simply having worked here for a few years should mean you're elligable to become an "English" player, but i don't necessarily think it should be 100% down to where you were born. |
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Post by dereffe on Aug 29, 2010 14:35:41 GMT
No ofcourse not where you were born, because that would, like you said before, make Siem de Jong for example Swiss and he has no connection with Switzerland at all. What's most important is where your parents are born and/or where you grew up. In what country you developed from a child to a human being with opinions and all.
Also, what's important to me is what the reason is you're going somewhere. Like I stated before, if for example Schalke 04 would've paid Arteta 10 euro more per year he would've played for them and now probably was thinking about becoming a German
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Post by babu on Aug 29, 2010 14:39:18 GMT
except he wouldn't have a chance to play in a first class team like germany
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Post by dereffe on Aug 29, 2010 15:06:59 GMT
HJK Helsinki then, however you like it
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Post by orch on Aug 29, 2010 15:30:25 GMT
No ofcourse not where you were born, because that would, like you said before, make Siem de Jong for example Swiss and he has no connection with Switzerland at all. What's most important is where your parents are born and/or where you grew up. In what country you developed from a child to a human being with opinions and all. Also, what's important to me is what the reason is you're going somewhere. Like I stated before, if for example Schalke 04 would've paid Arteta 10 euro more per year he would've played for them and now probably was thinking about becoming a German exactly |
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Post by barny on Sept 1, 2010 15:47:02 GMT
So all this discussion is just cos "he wants to play for England", right? That's an obvious movement, he won't play here, he lives there, it's just football, maybe he feels it or maybe he doesn't. Fair play.
Has someone from the England federation talked about that? That would be another thing tbh.
All that bullshit about he being English seems a bit dull, he's clearly not but maybe he feels comfortable and decides to live there. That's an immigrant, in football and in every other aspect. Anybody can ask for a nacionality for several reasons: work, football, money, other profits, feelings...
Anyway, in my opinion there's no need in a country with England's tradicion in football to let him play. Maybe you should get a decent goalkeeper though. And Senna was incredible in that Euro.
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Post by bet welching prick on Sept 1, 2010 17:29:50 GMT
It's so ridiculous that people would be offended if he played.
What would you lot say if Simone Perrotta decided to play for England? Should he be able to?
EVERY PERSONS SITUATION IS DIFFERENT
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Post by tucker on Sept 1, 2010 17:36:55 GMT
DECENT GOALKEEPER? WE'VE GOT A GOD JOE HART  |
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Post by Andy on Sept 1, 2010 17:38:27 GMT
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned but according to Levein the Home Nations have a written agreement that they wont take on players in that manner.
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Post by partbrut on Sept 1, 2010 17:46:27 GMT
I mentioned it about 3 pages ago, I think people were just enjoying arguing about nationality too much  Levein also said that he tried to get Shola Ameobi for Scotland becuase of his British passport  |
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Post by bet welching prick on Sept 1, 2010 17:48:02 GMT
So would you guys be alright with Simone Perrotta then since he was born in England?
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Post by dereffe on Sept 1, 2010 17:52:33 GMT
Maybe you should read a little better ffs
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Post by monkeytennis on Sept 1, 2010 18:19:47 GMT
No ofcourse not where you were born, because that would, like you said before, make Siem de Jong for example Swiss and he has no connection with Switzerland at all. What's most important is where your parents are born and/or where you grew up. In what country you developed from a child to a human being with opinions and all. Also, what's important to me is what the reason is you're going somewhere. Like I stated before, if for example Schalke 04 would've paid Arteta 10 euro more per year he would've played for them and now probably was thinking about becoming a German this is all extremely wooly. the problem with rules and keeping them fair and consistent across the board is that you have to have cut-off points and they have to be cut and dried. basically, you are a nonsense. |
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Post by orch on Sept 1, 2010 18:21:45 GMT
monkeytennis, get off your high horse n stfu.
boring cunt.
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Post by bet welching prick on Sept 1, 2010 18:23:40 GMT
monkeytennis, get off your high horse n stfu. boring cunt. WOULD YOU BE OK IF SIMONE PERROTTA PLAYED FOR ENGLAND Dave-O? |
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Post by monkeytennis on Sept 1, 2010 18:24:04 GMT
ORCH, YOUR MOTHER IS A FAT CUNT.
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Post by dereffe on Sept 1, 2010 18:24:19 GMT
No ofcourse not where you were born, because that would, like you said before, make Siem de Jong for example Swiss and he has no connection with Switzerland at all. What's most important is where your parents are born and/or where you grew up. In what country you developed from a child to a human being with opinions and all. Also, what's important to me is what the reason is you're going somewhere. Like I stated before, if for example Schalke 04 would've paid Arteta 10 euro more per year he would've played for them and now probably was thinking about becoming a German exactly Are you now, apart from a Geordie, French, Belgium, American and God knows what also Stevie Wonder, bet welching prick? |
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Post by dereffe on Sept 1, 2010 18:25:55 GMT
No ofcourse not where you were born, because that would, like you said before, make Siem de Jong for example Swiss and he has no connection with Switzerland at all. What's most important is where your parents are born and/or where you grew up. In what country you developed from a child to a human being with opinions and all. Also, what's important to me is what the reason is you're going somewhere. Like I stated before, if for example Schalke 04 would've paid Arteta 10 euro more per year he would've played for them and now probably was thinking about becoming a German this is all extremely wooly. the problem with rules and keeping them fair and consistent across the board is that you have to have cut-off points and they have to be cut and dried. basically, you are a nonsense. hahah the forum's mong is back. still obsessed with me you ugly cunt? |
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