Is Guitar music in a coma?

Noel is 45 year old. You really cant epect him to be writing rocknroll star or cigarettes and alcohol anymore.

When did people stop wanting to be rock stars ? Why do young lads in bands not aspire to be like the Rolling Stones anymore? what changed?

I'm sure they still do, theres still loads of terrible ladrock bands wanting to do exactly that. the thing is the stones and the beatles where both actually full of art school kids and till recently most decent bands would have at least a couple of those types in it.

forming a straight up rock n roll band is fairly close to the last thing those type of people would be doing nowadays though. so its a medium basically for squares now

I'm pretty convinced that Sex on Fire was the moment rock n roll became uncool.

TBH the day most of us got past the age of 25 we became irreverent in terms of what is happening or exciting with guitar music in popular culture. Whatever the next big trend or revolution in rock 'n roll will be will be made by 18 year olds for people of a similar age bracket & under, not people near or over 30. Not that we can't of course enjoy whatever comes next but it won't be specifically made for 30 year olds in 2012 just like Nirvana weren't made for people who dug the sex pistols just like the sex pistols weren't here for people who were into The Who, just like the Who weren't made for the kids that dug Elvis.

As for guitar-music well the past few years the garage rock scene in the US has kept me excited with guitars. I know there was one of these with the White Stripes in the early 00's but for the most part it didn't appeal to me & I'm enjoying the second wave of it now with bands like King Khan, Black Lips, Hunx & his Punx, Nobunny & Natural Child.

Like all genre's, they have highs & they have lows but there is ALWAYS great music in any genre being made, it's just that sometimes you have to dig deep & search for it rather than it being handed to you on a plate.

very good point. Most of the people who want to be creative with music nowdays, will no doubt go for laptop music. Thinking about the 60s, guitar music was seen as a fertile territory that pretty much anyone could explore. I think electronic music is seen in the same way, as a land where you are given unlimited opportunities to "be creative". Better yet, it cuts down all the bloody hard work and costs behind guitar music: you don't have to keep five lads together through the good and the bad, you don't have to rehearse a song 1.000 times before you start to understand if it's working or not, you don't have to rent a studio for a limited amount of time to produce a demo etc. One could produce a record in his bedroom nowdays and have it rated 4 stars and a half on Allmusic.

I think this process started when Brian Eno brought electronic music to the rock audience, but it's only in the last 10 years that the technology is available to anyone so everybody wants to jump in.

i shall mostly be agreeing with mr david in this thread. great points made.

I feel old.

Plenty of great guitar bands kicking about Glasgow, and Scotland in general. And not one of them is landfill indie / Britpop cast offs either.

Sure, guitar bands can't get near the charts just now, but it'll come round again, always does.

Mr David makes some valid points, its simply a lot easier now for people to make things on their laptop than pick up a guitar, but Karl's points are salient too. the fact is that there are still tons of great guitar based acts around, its just a little bit deeper than on the radio in the charts etc.

theres good music in every genre and bad in every genre. the thing is rather than guitar music being dead, or in a coma, we're actually at a big crossroads of how people consume music. the internet and streaming etc, is only really the tip of the iceberg, its hard to know whats around the corner. rock n roll is still doing as fine as any other genre.

this was perhaps me forgetting to make a point (unless you think I need telling that!) theres loads of decent guitar music thats simply not commercial - but literally everyone doing the straight up indie rock/alt thing at the mo is a joke.

I make music with a laptop, guitar music, so it's not one or the other. It's got more to do with it being something in the past now, it became history, with all the games with joystick guitars... so young people don't feel the need to pick up a real one. It would be like we learnt how to use a crossbow or something.

And music lost its value, its importance in a teenager's life. Now it's just another file.

Guitar music should make a free app to become popular again. But it would be has been 15 days later. It's a weird world we live in now. Our generation is stuck between two worlds.

guitar music is saved

Former Oasis rhythm guitarist Bonehead has recorded an album with his new band Parlour Flames, which is set for release at the end of this year.

The band consists of Bonehead and Salford-based singer songwriter and poet Vinny Peculiar. The duo are also set to tour the UK and Europe.

Bonehead, aka Paul Arthurs played rhythm guitar in Oasis from 1991-1999. He left during the recording of the band's fourth album 'Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants' stating that he wanted to spend more time with his family. He was replaced in the band by Gem Archer, who now plays with Liam Gallagher in Beady Eye.

In a statement about his new band, Arthurs said: "This is the first time in a while its felt totally right what I’m doing and the music sounds fantastic. Vinny is such a talented singer songwriter and together we have come up with something we can both be truly proud of".

He added: "The album took a while to come to fruition. Core vocals, guitar, piano, bass and keyboard parts were played by ourselves with guest performances from 'Bob the Brass' on trumpet/fugal horn, Semay Woo on cello’s and Anna Zweck [Samson & Delilah] on flute. The drums were played by Chorlton beat-poet in residence Che Beresford [Badly Drawn Boy]. We are really pleased with the results".

Since leaving Oasis, Bonehead has played in Moondog One with The Smiths' Mike Joyce and Andy Rourke. He also DJs and has presented a radio show on BBC Radio Manchester.

Talking of awesome guitar music, radiohead never sounded so great

SFA need to come back asap

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Real music reigns. The god of all music that Roger Waters is still the king of kings.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18826218
The Top 10 highest earning tours from November 1 2011 to May 31 2012 are:

1. Roger Waters' The Wall ($131.4 million/£83.6 million)
2. Michael Jackson: The Immortal Tour by Cirque du Soleil ($68.4 million/£43.5 million)
3. Bruce Springsteen ($52.4 million/£33.34 million)
4. Jay-Z/Kanye West’s The Throne ($46 million/£29.27 million)
5. Lady Gaga ($44 million/£27.99 million)
6. Van Halen ($38.6 million/£24.6 million)
7. Trans-Siberian Orchestra ($33.4 million/£21.24 million)
8. Taylor Swift ($26.3 million/£16.73 million)
9. Pearl Jam ($25.4 million/£16.16 million)
10. Andre Rieu ($25.3 million/£16.10 milllion)

only fags that don't know the power of real rock n roll can complain about there being no decent guitar music today.

In fact I hope there is never ever a great rock n roll band again, just to make the stones and floyd even more mythical and god like.

FUCK YEAH!!!!!!.

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Yup, nothing says "ROCK" like being on a list with Andre Rieu and the Trans-Siberian Orchestra.

lul @ srk

I think your post is incredibly shit, as I do not know and do not care who those people are.

I only care that MY GOD Roger Waters is the hottest ticket in the world - FACT - and is therefore instantly more relevant, important, and eternally bigger than some red headed spacko with 20 inch glasses making weird noises on his laptop/iPad.

Rock N Roll will live on and will never be in a coma, and anyone who expects to hear new music as good / enjoyable as something ground breaking in the past is a selfish deluded cunt.

its been done before, and for that simple fact everything remains relevant unless you're deaf or unless you like bands like beady eye. ;D

You will find bellends with no artistic credibility on all kinds of lists you fucking spastic.

OWNED. Now GTFO.

RIP guitars.
Killed by squares.