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Post by eddiemurphy on Jul 11, 2021 21:49:36 GMT
took the camera out. come on england.
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Post by eddiemurphy on Jul 11, 2021 21:51:53 GMT
tilt. worried now. really worried now.
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Post by eddiemurphy on Jul 11, 2021 21:53:43 GMT
get in. COME ON ENGLAND.
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Post by eddiemurphy on Jul 11, 2021 21:54:40 GMT
FUCK IT.
TRIPLE FUCK IT.
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Post by DiamondWhite on Jul 11, 2021 21:56:42 GMT
There's always the World Cup.
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Post by eddiemurphy on Jul 11, 2021 22:15:21 GMT
think rolli got it right.
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Post by Mr David on Jul 11, 2021 22:18:56 GMT
Rolli has never got anything right, even when he’s correct. He’s an infant like axl who sees the world in terms of ‘what I like is the best’ both are obviously nonces.
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Post by Rollinice on Jul 11, 2021 23:17:26 GMT
My best to the England supporters, as someone that has been on the wrong side of some shootouts in my time, they sting.
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Post by Belligerent Hype Man on Jul 12, 2021 0:13:15 GMT
It’s taking incredible will power not to gloat, but I won’t.
What I will say though is Saka, at 19 years old should not have been put in the position he was put in tonight, absolutely criminal. I know it’s a young squad but surely a more experienced player should have stepped up.
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Post by Rollinice on Jul 12, 2021 3:11:13 GMT
It’s taking incredible will power not to gloat, but I won’t. What I will say though is Saka, at 19 years old should not have been put in the position he was put in tonight, absolutely criminal. I know it’s a young squad but surely a more experienced player should have stepped up. No reason to, the tactics from England were interesting, to secede that much possession to Italy when their midfield is miles ahead England was quite the strategy. Also, for years the English press demeaned the Italians for playing a structured style, cantaneccio, it was funny to watch them adapt it after all those years with a back 3 that included the likes of Stones and Macguire. So happy for Chiellini and Bonucci, players that were maligned for never winning the big one, which was quite unfair as it was down to bad luck or injuries at an inopportune time. And yes, the Saka decision is a head scratcher, but props to Southgate. A typical England manger would have tried to fit all over their attacking options onto the pitch at once.
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Post by Mr David on Jul 12, 2021 6:48:16 GMT
My best to the England supporters, as someone that has been on the wrong side of some shootouts in my time, they sting. has your country USA ever been knocked out in a shoot out?
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Post by titchjuicy on Jul 12, 2021 10:28:06 GMT
We're gonna fuck you up Rollinice. Slash you the fuck up, it'll be the worst you've leaked since Heathen Chemistry. We are wise to you Karl, Chiellini will dominate Kane and the Italian press is already on top of any shenanigans. For example, UEFA helping England advance as a favor to Boris Johnson. Chiellini and co kept Kane quiet for Juve against Spurs a few seasons back and did the same last night. He didn't have a single attempt on or off target over 120 mins.
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Post by Bigred3 on Jul 12, 2021 11:14:18 GMT
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Post by srk on Jul 12, 2021 12:29:39 GMT
It’s taking incredible will power not to gloat, but I won’t. What I will say though is Saka, at 19 years old should not have been put in the position he was put in tonight, absolutely criminal. I know it’s a young squad but surely a more experienced player should have stepped up. 100 million billion percent this. I couldn't believe they took henderson off, if anyone has experience in pressurized situations, it's him. But the one I look at is rashford. That bullshit staredown of donnarumma, followed by the turgid run-up...just kick the fucking ball. Sancho's was a great save by donnarumma, but saka should never have been in that position. Poor kid. In any case, thank fuck.
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Post by Fuzzy Dunlop on Jul 12, 2021 13:05:52 GMT
My view on Southgate before the tournament was that if England got anywhere it would be in spite of him rather than because of it and I largely stand by that. Good man manager who has no intention of getting the most of the attacking talent at his disposal. 1 shot on target in 120 minutes in a game at home? Oh dear.
In better news, I comfortably won the Euro fantasy football mini league and nearly took the Rolli Invitational one too.
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Post by eddiemurphy on Jul 12, 2021 13:25:34 GMT
no intention of getting the most of the attacking talent at his disposal. 1 shot on target in 120 minutes in a game at home? Oh dear. possession has always been england's big issue against the better technical teams. don't really know what the answer is tbh. still did well to get it to pens (thought we'd lose in real time).
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Post by barny on Jul 12, 2021 13:49:06 GMT
My view on Southgate before the tournament was that if England got anywhere it would be in spite of him rather than because of it and I largely stand by that. Good man manager who has no intention of getting the most of the attacking talent at his disposal. 1 shot on target in 120 minutes in a game at home? Oh dear. In better news, I comfortably won the Euro fantasy football mini league and nearly took the Rolli Invitational one too. I think he was crucial for getting you to the final (prioritizing consistency to creativity), but yesterday's match was so wrong on so many levels the balance will look far worse for him than it probably should.
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Post by tucker on Jul 12, 2021 14:54:01 GMT
Wow, what a game. Not necessarily the prettiest game to watch, but as an England fan, what a rollercoaster. Going 1-0 up after 2 minutes and just controlling that first half, it was hard not to get carried away. Italy looked like they didn't have a clue what to do, and we just looked very, very comfortable. Back to that early goal, it seems we don't end up doing too well in these super important games when we score so early. We did against Croatia at the last World Cup and lost, and again here. But it was great, absolute scenes in my front room, jumping around while the dog went crazy and my daughter laughed her behind off at me going "way over the top" (as my missus put it) Was very lucky not to wake the boy or I'd have been in bother for sure.
Second half for us was just woeful, at least in terms of attacking. I know it's not the Southgate way but we should have went looking for a second goal. We had to. Instead, we just sat back and let Italy get at us. Still, I guess we can take some comfort in the fact the the only goal we conceded was from a set-piece. Of course Bonucci did well to get it to it but it was scrappy.
For me, from the point of Italy equalizing, it was nail biting stuff. As each minute passed and the closer we got to extra time and penalties, the more stressed I was getting.
I found Southgate's approach to subs baffling. I thought Declan Rice was doing an incredible job in midfield so was very disappointed to see him taken off. Would've been nice to see Graelish introduces sooner, too. Also, why not bring Sancho & Rashford on sooner? Everyone was tired and both of them are fast and skillful. They might've caused Italy some problems, especially Sancho who gets into good positions.
The the shootout itself, well, it's always a bit of a lottery isn't it? I honestly thought we'd struggle to score any because Donnarumma is so fucking big and looked so imposing. Maguire's penalty was emphatic and it was great to see Pickford save against Jorginho. Can't really be annoyed at the lads who missed. Rashford & Sancho had zero chance to get into the game and in the right mindset. And Saka, man, the pressure on his shoulders at 19 must've been immense. Poor kid.
Congratulations to Italy. They are on an incredible run and deserved the to win. For England, we go again in Qatar. I don't expect us to win the World Cup, but who knows? The players will learn and grow together over the next year and the experience of losing in the final of a major tournament will be invaluable to them.
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Post by titchjuicy on Jul 12, 2021 18:39:29 GMT
Totally agree about Rice. He was our best player yesterday. I completely wrote him off pre-tournament but he's been excellent.
I have supported Southgate in the England managers job since he was in charge of the u21s. Obvious man for the job for me and he's proving he's got what it takes in tournament football. A semi final followed by a final bears that out. He learns from his mistakes and is intelligent enough to learn from this. But, he was at fault last night. Mancini made two subs on 51 mins, taking off Immobile and changing the system- and we didn't react. We barely saw the ball after that.
Is there another Nations league coming up?
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Post by Simone on Jul 12, 2021 20:19:25 GMT
The best thing about winning this European Cup is that it wasn't easy. We still get criticised for winning the 2006 World Cup with relatively lucky matchups (against Australia, Ukraine, Germany and France). As if beating Germany in its own stadium were easy! Nothing in this tournament was easy though - we beat Switzerland (which, excuse me, sent France home), Austria, Belgium, Spain and England. If Brazil played in the cup, we would have beaten them too. As usual with Italy, this victory comes at the most unexpected of times. We were losing traction as a national league against the Premier League and the Liga. Look at us now!
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