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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 21:07:11 GMT
You've got it, dan. Plus Fellaini and Baines would be welcomed additions.
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Post by tucker on May 8, 2013 21:39:40 GMT
Kroldrup, Jacobson, Bilyaletdinov, Beckford, van der Meyde, Valente, Bent, Tie... was Wright a Moyes signing? Then theres Pistone who Moyes released and then re-signed. Do you genuinely believe Moyes hasnt signed any bad players?? since byram isnt here: koldrup played one game then went on to have a decent 5 years at fiorentina. Jacobsen was a cheap squad player. bily is a talented player who couldnt handle the premier league. beckford was a free transfer. van der meyde was a talented player whose failings were entirely to do with his love of drink and drugs that he seemingly discovered in liverpool nuno valente wasnt a bad player even, let alone awful bent was an average player, same as valente. he was cheap and we got what we payed for Li Tie was to do with chinese sponsorship (wei feng on the other hand actually was awful) and not actually awful. had a decent spell in the championship, his level. Pistone isnt awful, he's average. which of these was actually a bad signing, let alone awful? Your manager signed a player because of a sponsorship deal, he wasn't good enough and looked ok in the Championship. But that's not awful. Ok mate, i'll leave it there
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Post by tucker on May 9, 2013 14:30:54 GMT
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Post by lukebox on May 9, 2013 15:12:13 GMT
With the mention of Jonjo Shelvey in another thread I just wanted to say he will forever be my hero for telling Ferguson off in such direct and amusing fashion last season
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Post by srk on May 9, 2013 16:01:22 GMT
With the mention of Jonjo Shelvey in another thread I just wanted to say he will forever be my hero for telling Ferguson off in such direct and amusing fashion last season Ditto this with Mancini: Aside from winning the FA Cup and the league, he's basically guaranteed sainthood in the blue half of Manchester forevermore because of that night.
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Post by eddiemurphy on May 9, 2013 17:00:54 GMT
no tv camera's at the press conference for fergie.
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Post by eddiemurphy on May 9, 2013 17:04:08 GMT
6 yr deal for moyes.
i'd be underwhelmed if i was a dirty red.
club as big as them should be going for the top names. ;D
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Post by srk on May 9, 2013 17:13:55 GMT
Like the Manager of Aberdeen, perhaps?
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Post by eddiemurphy on May 9, 2013 18:18:01 GMT
Like the Manager of Aberdeen, perhaps? ancient history. it's 2013 and i'd want a big hitter. moyes will tow the party line. bet hehe agrees with me on this. ;D
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Post by Columbia_rocks_man on May 9, 2013 19:12:26 GMT
Like the Manager of Aberdeen, perhaps? I'm a fan of Moyes, but that's a completely redundant comparison. Aberdeen were one of the best sides in Europe in the first half of the 1980s. They reached the European Cup semi-finals, and won the Cup Winner's Cup by beating Real Madrid. Everton in 2013 are far, far from that level. The English media have been strongly hinting in the past 24 hours that United took a risk by appointing Ferguson in '86. If anything, it was him that was taking the risk. He was one of the highest rated managers in Europe, and the story goes he would have got the Liverpool job (the biggest there was at the time), if Dalglish had turned it down. Fergie had already by that time turned down Spurs, who were on an equal footing with Utd then.
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Post by lukebox on May 9, 2013 21:08:10 GMT
I agree completely, but I think the point srk was actually making was that Craigie Broon has one more big job left in him
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Post by danscouse on May 9, 2013 22:32:13 GMT
Like the Manager of Aberdeen, perhaps? ancient history. it's 2013 and i'd want a big hitter. moyes will tow the party line. bet hehe agrees with me on this. ;D Eddie your football opinions - in fact all your opinions are pretty Dreadful If by 'tow the party line' you mean he'll do his best to honour the united traditions Of attacking play with youngsters, conduct himself with a bit of class and dignity and won't bounce in with a zillion of his own staff, making sweeping changes.....then yes, that's exactly what he'll do and that's why he was appointed. Sure united could have went for some foreign flavour of the mOnth, but ultimately even if that manager brought short term success in the greater scheme of things 'the united way' would be lost. (if you want a perfect example look at liverpool....for years they promoted from within, but then came French, Spanish, woy, returning legend, up and coming flavour of the month.....and although some have had success it's come at a price, the whole identity was lost)
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 22:32:47 GMT
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Post by caspergomez on May 10, 2013 4:16:30 GMT
Like the Manager of Aberdeen, perhaps? I'm a fan of Moyes, but that's a completely redundant comparison. Aberdeen were one of the best sides in Europe in the first half of the 1980s. They reached the European Cup semi-finals, and won the Cup Winner's Cup by beating Real Madrid. Everton in 2013 are far, far from that level. The English media have been strongly hinting in the past 24 hours that United took a risk by appointing Ferguson in '86. If anything, it was him that was taking the risk. He was one of the highest rated managers in Europe, and the story goes he would have got the Liverpool job (the biggest there was at the time), if Dalglish had turned it down. Fergie had already by that time turned down Spurs, who were on an equal footing with Utd then. Cheers for this, I read SRK's comment and was about to say pretty much the same thing. Well put. Ferguson built a team that could compete with the very best in Europe at Aberdeen and he didn't just break the Glasgow dominance, he fucking smashed it. Another ignorant comment from someone who think English football started in 1992 (SRK, not you)
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Post by eddiemurphy on May 10, 2013 5:49:10 GMT
i just think moyes is a slightly underwhelming pick. i don't think he'll do a bad job. the criticisms on united have been a lack of ambition in the transfer market. especially for a club with the 2nd biggest turnover in club football. moyes will tow the party line on that aspect. someone like mourinho would probably butt heads on that. ;D
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Post by eddiemurphy on May 10, 2013 5:52:44 GMT
If by 'tow the party line' you mean he'll do his best to honour the united traditions Of attacking play with youngsters, conduct himself with a bit of class and dignity and won't bounce in with a zillion of his own staff, making sweeping changes.....then yes, that's exactly what he'll do and that's why he was appointed. Sure united could have went for some foreign flavour of the mOnth, but ultimately even if that manager brought short term success in the greater scheme of things 'the united way' would be lost. (if you want a perfect example look at liverpool....for years they promoted from within, but then came French, Spanish, woy, returning legend, up and coming flavour of the month.....and although some have had success it's come at a price, the whole identity was lost) united are established big hitters. all this flannel about stability is just that.
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Post by liamw on May 10, 2013 6:49:22 GMT
ancient history. it's 2013 and i'd want a big hitter. moyes will tow the party line. bet hehe agrees with me on this. ;D Eddie your football opinions - in fact all your opinions are pretty Dreadful If by 'tow the party line' you mean he'll do his best to honour the united traditions Of attacking play with youngsters, conduct himself with a bit of class and dignity and won't bounce in with a zillion of his own staff, making sweeping changes.....then yes, that's exactly what he'll do and that's why he was appointed. Sure united could have went for some foreign flavour of the mOnth, but ultimately even if that manager brought short term success in the greater scheme of things 'the united way' would be lost. (if you want a perfect example look at liverpool....for years they promoted from within, but then came French, Spanish, woy, returning legend, up and coming flavour of the month.....and although some have had success it's come at a price, the whole identity was lost) I fully agree with this. I am very pleased United haven't followed suit and gone for a big European name like 'Chealse, Madrid City etc', and gave a British manager a chance, who will do it the United way. Instead of turning United into another managment merry-go-round, doing 1 big pay off after the other, and becoming just another big club. Ok Moyes hasn't won a trophy but has many trophy's do you expect him to win with Everton when competing against the top 4/5. Ok you may expect a cup everynow and again like Swansea Pompy or Boro etc, but you have to have the luck of the draw, when Everton did get to a cup final they came up against Chelsea - Swansea got Bradford! The fact he hasn't won anything i think will give him the hunger and drive to go out and do so. And even if he doesn't do to well in his first 2 or 3 seasons i don't expect him to get the boot cos where different we give managers a chance to build their own team with their identity. I'd be a bit worried after 8 seasons tho!
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Post by Moz on May 10, 2013 7:09:51 GMT
Gutted fergie's gone tbh but it was bound to happen sooner or later. Also proper happy with Moyes and like others have said, I hope he gets the time. Gonna be mad as fuck though agree with the above comment about his lack of trophies - he's just going to have something to prove and it'll give him.the hunger. THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD TIMES, SIR ALEX x
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Post by eddiemurphy on May 10, 2013 14:06:57 GMT
moyes looked glum today. the guilt of joning the dark side already weighing heavy.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2013 16:12:23 GMT
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