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Post by 8track on Mar 3, 2015 11:23:36 GMT
it's a relentlessly ok album which i probably would've loved 10 years ago. he's still got a great ear for melody but, basically, he just can't get away with writing songs about nothing anymore. he needed the exuberance of youth and liam's vocals to make that work. now it's just boring.
highlights:
riverman - bit contrived but i do quite like the groove.
lock all the doors - obvs it's basically a 20 year old demo, but it's still a cracker of a chorus tbh.
right stuff - pretty cool but it'd take a whole album in that style to demonstrate an actual move forwards.
ballad of mighty i - this is a terrific song and easily noel's best as a solo act.
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Post by Benoît Assou-Ekotto on Mar 3, 2015 11:53:34 GMT
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Post by cripples on Mar 3, 2015 12:04:51 GMT
it's a relentlessly ok album which i probably would've loved 10 years ago. he's still got a great ear for melody but, basically, he just can't get away with writing songs about nothing anymore. he needed the exuberance of youth and liam's vocals to make that work. now it's just boring. very good point. writing songs about nothing, that is one of his trademarks, but yesterday evening I thought somehow exactly the same thing as you..or I thought Id go insane if Id checked all the lyrics out and would find them non-imaginative and boring, cos I know at least some of them are. Now I just enjoy the tunes because they are mostly pretty freaking good. But if the lyrics are too bland I just lose the interest and makes me even alienated from his solo stuff. I dont know if this album will stand the test of the time if it has just some tunes and grooves and no additional creative depths or whatever new'intetesting going on. He should by this point try and give the songs a more lyrical twist just to keep himself interesting, musically it is good but for how long can we be arsed? |
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Post by ton on Mar 3, 2015 13:07:32 GMT
At least he's now ripping off his own tunes in a good enough manner, which is certainly more than I expected.
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Post by 8track on Mar 3, 2015 15:01:02 GMT
does the beginning of dying of the light remind anyone else of midnight in a perfect world? obviously that's where the similarities end, though.
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Post by tr81f on Mar 3, 2015 15:24:52 GMT
Anyone else hearing the similarity between the verses of If I Had A Gun and Lock All The Doors?
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Post by barny on Mar 3, 2015 17:10:25 GMT
Don't you think Revolution Song sounds quite a bit like Solve My Mystery?
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Post by Fuzzy Dunlop on Mar 3, 2015 22:47:23 GMT
Reported setlist from Belfast:
Stranded On the Wrong Beach
Everbody's On the Run
Fade Away
In the Heat Of The Moment
Lock All the Doors
Riverman
The Death Of You And Me
You Know We Can't Go Back
Champagne Supernova (Acoustic)
Dream On
The Dying Of The Light
The Mexican
Shout It Out Loud
Digsy's Dinner
If I Had A Gun
The Ballad Of The Mighty I
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Alone On The Rope
Don't Look Back In Anger (Acoustic)
AKA... What A Life!
The Masterplan
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Post by jp on Mar 3, 2015 22:56:53 GMT
no little by little, fucking beautiful.
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Post by tucker on Mar 4, 2015 0:19:06 GMT
Surprisingly great tonight apart from the shit drummer overdoing it as usual and destroying a few songs. Champagne Supernova was unreal, as was the full band version of The Masterplan
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 6:51:05 GMT
I get the point about Noel writing songs about nothing and not being able to relate to the lyrics, I would counter this somewhat, and say that it is only slightly, partially true.
I'm the man with the largest facts in the world.
1) Noel has always written songs about nothing. Its now slightly less exciting without Liam and the rest of the band. Noel's vocals cannot bring a song to the forefront of world championship wrestling, Liam's can.
2) Noel has improved as a music writer, the sound, direction, and depth of his music is light years ahead of anything since be here now
3) lyrically, he has improved greatly at writing love songs. All his best album moments where the lyrics and music come together to deliver the ultimate scorpion death drop can be experienced when he's writing simple songs about love. He should stick to this formula. It works brilliantly for him, and in any capacity.
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Post by forever on Mar 4, 2015 8:15:29 GMT
Reported setlist from Belfast: Stranded On the Wrong Beach Everbody's On the Run Fade Away In the Heat Of The Moment Lock All the Doors Riverman The Death Of You And Me You Know We Can't Go Back Champagne Supernova (Acoustic) Dream On The Dying Of The Light The Mexican Shout It Out Loud Digsy's Dinner If I Had A Gun The Ballad Of The Mighty I --------------- Alone On The Rope Don't Look Back In Anger (Acoustic) AKA... What A Life! The Masterplan Aren't those essentially the same Oasis numbers he's been doing since that acoustic tour with Gem about a decade ago, with the addition of a version of Champagne Supernova which was most likely the most turgid in history? I think we know who was to blame for the monotony of sets from 2005 onwards. |
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Post by barny on Mar 4, 2015 10:34:24 GMT
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Post by srk on Mar 4, 2015 13:13:31 GMT
Reported setlist from Belfast: Stranded On the Wrong Beach Everbody's On the Run Fade Away In the Heat Of The Moment Lock All the Doors Riverman The Death Of You And Me You Know We Can't Go Back Champagne Supernova (Acoustic) Dream On The Dying Of The Light The Mexican Shout It Out Loud Digsy's Dinner If I Had A Gun The Ballad Of The Mighty I --------------- Alone On The Rope Don't Look Back In Anger (Acoustic) AKA... What A Life! The Masterplan Aren't those essentially the same Oasis numbers he's been doing since that acoustic tour with Gem about a decade ago, with the addition of a version of Champagne Supernova which was most likely the most turgid in history? I think we know who was to blame for the monotony of sets from 2005 onwards. Well, aside from the masterplan, digsy's, shout it out loud and champagne supernova, you're exactly right. 2 out of 6 ain't bad. |
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Post by srk on Mar 4, 2015 15:10:03 GMT
Riverman - 8.5/10. Love it.
In the heat of the moment - 7/10. It grew on me, I have to admit
The girl with the x-ray eyes. 6/10. I have a hard time remembering this one.
Lock all the doors - 7.5/10. I expected more from it, given the rave reviews...get the feeling it will grow on me.
The dying of the light - 8/10. I like the demo better. And yet, of the 10 songs, this is the one that's burrowed into my brain fastest.
The right stuff - 8/10. And now for something completely different. Nice.
While the song remains the same - 7/10 Solid.
The mexican - 6.5/10 I liked this better when it was a bonus track on exile on main street
You know we can't go back. 8.5/10 Love it.
Ballad of the mighty I. Best thing on the album.
Solid 7.5-8/10 so far...the sound is fantastic on headphones. Did a great production job.
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Post by barny on Mar 4, 2015 16:31:47 GMT
Yeah, production is nice for this set of songs. Producing Oasis would be a different thing.
Didn't like them initially, but Heat and Ballad are both good singles, I can't completely feel them but you won't find bigger choruses out there.
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Post by 8track on Mar 4, 2015 16:52:37 GMT
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Post by monkeytennis on Mar 4, 2015 21:15:24 GMT
gave it a go, heard the first track ripping wonderwall, ripping the title from a nick drake song, ripping the opening line from the beatles and d pretty much gave up. what i heard was pedestrian dirge with some nice instrumentation, but will give it another go
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Post by Fuzzy Dunlop on Mar 4, 2015 23:45:58 GMT
Alone On The Rope dumped already from the looks of it:  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 4:02:57 GMT
Reported setlist from Belfast: Stranded On the Wrong Beach Everbody's On the Run Fade Away In the Heat Of The Moment Lock All the Doors Riverman The Death Of You And Me You Know We Can't Go Back Champagne Supernova (Acoustic) Dream On The Dying Of The Light The Mexican Shout It Out Loud Digsy's Dinner If I Had A Gun The Ballad Of The Mighty I --------------- Alone On The Rope Don't Look Back In Anger (Acoustic) AKA... What A Life! The Masterplan Aren't those essentially the same Oasis numbers he's been doing since that acoustic tour with Gem about a decade ago, with the addition of a version of Champagne Supernova which was most likely the most turgid in history? I think we know who was to blame for the monotony of sets from 2005 onwards. Noel should sing all songs with his hands behind his back, and get slash to do a 10 hour version of freaky teeth, with a Vegas desert back drop. Fuck yeaaaaaaaa ! |
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