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Post by Tuckerman on Sept 27, 2019 10:37:08 GMT
Looks like it's down to me an Ax to be the madferritz these days (should we stand a band Ax? The Mad Ferrets?)
And Mahoney, what would your tracklist look like for post-Oasis Liam sung stuff (so including BDI)
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Post by barny on Sept 27, 2019 10:47:13 GMT
The Grateful Dads would be a better name
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Post by Tuckerman on Sept 27, 2019 10:50:53 GMT
Only when Ax has a kid (or has that happened already?)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 11:20:50 GMT
I’ll have a think about it tux
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Post by lino on Sept 27, 2019 13:24:45 GMT
I'm still listening to it daily. I think it's better than AYW, but "Come back to me" is probably still my favourite of his songs.
You didn't ask me but my post-Oasis Liam compilation would be:
Flick of the finger Greedy soul Once Meadow Paper Crown Evil Eye Four letter word Off at the next exit Come back to me Start anew
I'd make it all ballads and mid-tempo, but I know some people prefer the faster, punkier tracks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 13:43:47 GMT
01: Four Letter Word 02: One of Us 03: Wall of Glass 04: For Anyone 05: Glimmer 06: Flick of the Finger 07: For What It's Worth 08: The Roller 09: Shockwave 10: Paper Crown 11: Bring The Light 12: Once 13: Sons of the Stage
yes, I still love the Roller & For Anyone, lick is.
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Post by barny on Sept 27, 2019 14:14:13 GMT
Guilty pleasure? BL R
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Post by srk on Sept 27, 2019 14:30:13 GMT
I liked all of Gem's songs from the first beady eye album, but I can basically recall nothing from the 2nd one beyond flick of the finger and soon come tomorrow (since it sort of reminds me of Dylan's man in the long black coat). Same with as you were...2-3 really good songs and a bunch of filler.
The Guardian's review, which basically said the songs were good enough to keep him touring and allowed fans to take a piss when he's not playing oasis songs is accurate enough. Glad he's still around doing it, since it's basically the only chance i'm ever going to get to see songs from Be here now live.
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Post by jp on Sept 27, 2019 14:39:39 GMT
I'm still mad fer it tux x
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Post by Tuckerman on Sept 27, 2019 14:41:36 GMT
I'm still mad fer it tux x And you, my man, could definitely be in a band called The Grateful Dads. We know there is still lead in your pencil. You any good on the scissors?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 15:53:09 GMT
I’m on my 68th listen motherfuckers, still fucking pumped and mad fer it.
One of us, alright now, and why me why not are so powerful. I can’t stop listening to these three songs. My only gripe is that I’m starting to get annoyed by shockwave.
MTV unplugged tonight lads, empty house, and my lady is off to the pictures with my mum to watch downtown fucking abbey. If I get to hear sad song I might start shaking uncontrollably ! Just deciding on whether to have a wank before or after MTV unplugged ! Fuck what a Friday !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 16:25:06 GMT
I've had the misfortune of seeing the trailer for this at least 5 times at the cinema & it makes me feel physically ill.
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Post by Columbia_rocks_man on Sept 27, 2019 16:26:05 GMT
The Liam record has had no staying power with me. Enjoyed it less with each listen tbh: 3 or 4 good songs, the rest I wouldn’t mind if I never hear again. Still there’s probably an albums worth of great material from the two solo and two BDI records. I’m glad to have him around popping up every 3 years with a good single or two plus tour. The records - especially this second solo effort - are just excuses to tour. It’s the way the market works for most ageing artists. No one expects them to set the world alight anymore. There was more pressure on the debut as it had to establish him as a credible solo artist. He managed that fine, now he sells out arenas, so the records are of secondary importance. This new one has little staying power and no stand out singles, but it doesn’t really matter. I find that Pitchfork review incredible in a way. I mean it’s a fair review and pretty much on the money. But not so long ago they would have absolutely flamed Liam without a second thought. Beady Eye could not get taken seriously despite having infinitely better material. There just was not a market for them. Wrong band, wrong time. It’s amazing what a rebranding can do. LG is a middle aged social media influencer who plays raucous live events. Like all good social media influencers it doesn’t really matter what he’s selling. People are buying him.
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Post by Fuzzy Dunlop on Sept 27, 2019 16:42:28 GMT
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Post by Tuckerman on Sept 27, 2019 17:01:02 GMT
The Liam record has had no staying power with me. Enjoyed it less with each listen tbh: 3 or 4 good songs, the rest I wouldn’t mind if I never hear again. Still there’s probably an albums worth of great material from the two solo and two BDI records. I’m glad to have him around popping up every 3 years with a good single or two plus tour. The records - especially this second solo effort - are just excuses to tour. It’s the way the market works for most ageing artists. No one expects them to set the world alight anymore. There was more pressure on the debut as it had to establish him as a credible solo artist. He managed that fine, now he sells out arenas, so the records are of secondary importance. This new one has little staying power and no stand out singles, but it doesn’t really matter. I find that Pitchfork review incredible in a way. I mean it’s a fair review and pretty much on the money. But not so long ago they would have absolutely flamed Liam without a second thought. Beady Eye could not get taken seriously despite having infinitely better material. There just was not a market for them. Wrong band, wrong time. It’s amazing what a rebranding can do. LG is a middle aged social media influencer who plays raucous live events. Like all good social media influencers it doesn’t really matter what he’s selling. People are buying him. Not sure I'd agree with that personally. I think between the 2 Beady Eye albums there is a very good album but for me there is definitely more quality and consistency across the 2 Liam solo records. Stuff like Four Letter Word, Bring The Light, Flick of The Finger are as good as, if not better, than anything from either of Liam's solo albums but there is a lot of absolute crap on those Beady Eye albums. Each to their own though
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 17:08:30 GMT
The Liam record has had no staying power with me. Enjoyed it less with each listen tbh: 3 or 4 good songs, the rest I wouldn’t mind if I never hear again. Still there’s probably an albums worth of great material from the two solo and two BDI records. I’m glad to have him around popping up every 3 years with a good single or two plus tour. The records - especially this second solo effort - are just excuses to tour. It’s the way the market works for most ageing artists. No one expects them to set the world alight anymore. There was more pressure on the debut as it had to establish him as a credible solo artist. He managed that fine, now he sells out arenas, so the records are of secondary importance. This new one has little staying power and no stand out singles, but it doesn’t really matter. I find that Pitchfork review incredible in a way. I mean it’s a fair review and pretty much on the money. But not so long ago they would have absolutely flamed Liam without a second thought. Beady Eye could not get taken seriously despite having infinitely better material. There just was not a market for them. Wrong band, wrong time. It’s amazing what a rebranding can do. LG is a middle aged social media influencer who plays raucous live events. Like all good social media influencers it doesn’t really matter what he’s selling. People are buying him. great post. You've gotta give it up to Debbie & the team in charge of his affairs now. The decision making for the solo career has been pretty much spot on. From the surprise Glasto slot a few years ago, to turning up at the Manchester charity concert, the documentary, the general portrayal in the media, the choices made for TV/Web appearences. The general narrative will always be that BDI was the dark years, and yeah they were for his bank account. But I find it laughable how anyone can find what he's doing now THAT much of an upgrade from what he was doing there. BDI was always Liam, doing Liam, just now it's under the Liam umbrella. Basically what I'm saying is I long for the BDI days where you could rock up to Brixton Academy and get a ticket off a tout for 15 quid. Been said before, but it is fucking mental seeing pictures from his gigs now, you'd expect everyone to be old cunts with beer belly's & kids, but there's so many young people desperate for a bit of that Oasis experience. Wouldn't have imagined this say six years ago.
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Post by barny on Sept 27, 2019 17:11:21 GMT
I have noticed a change of approach regarding Oasis and the likes from Pitchfork lately tbh
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 17:17:05 GMT
The records - especially this second solo effort - are just excuses to tour. It’s the way the market works for most ageing artists. No one expects them to set the world alight anymore. There was more pressure on the debut as it had to establish him as a credible solo artist. He managed that fine, now he sells out arenas, so the records are of secondary importance. This new one has little staying power and no stand out singles, but it doesn’t really matter. I find that Pitchfork review incredible in a way. I mean it’s a fair review and pretty much on the money. But not so long ago they would have absolutely flamed Liam without a second thought. Beady Eye could not get taken seriously despite having infinitely better material. There just was not a market for them. Wrong band, wrong time. It’s amazing what a rebranding can do. LG is a middle aged social media influencer who plays raucous live events. Like all good social media influencers it doesn’t really matter what he’s selling. People are buying him. Not sure I'd agree with that personally. I think between the 2 Beady Eye albums there is a very good album but for me there is definitely more quality and consistency across the 2 Liam solo records. Stuff like Four Letter Word, Bring The Light, Flick of The Finger are as good as, if not better, than anything from either of Liam's solo albums but there is a lot of absolute crap on those Beady Eye albums. Each to their own though I think I'd agree that the two Liam records are more consistent than the two BDI ones, though for me the best 3-4 BDI songs are better than anything from these records. Anyway, who cares! The war is over, just look at Dwayne! He has a new EP out yet nobody gives a toss! The narrative has completely changed even from the most stubborn Dwayne fans from "he's the talented one, Liam needs him" to "fucking hell, his songs are shit, fair play to Liam doing what does best". But most important to this thread, I & Liams_God was there when it mattered, all them BDI gigs that nobody gave a shit about, letting everyone know that Dwayne is a nonce. Axl on the other hand has changed teams once it became fashionable. Axl, your days are fading faster than your hairline buddy! Come on Iz right, enjoy downtown abbey, Sting is a cripple, Dwayne's a nonce, Axl Rose is a fat cunt & Robbie Fowler's a tory, suck it up.. WOOOOH!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 17:54:36 GMT
Of course I changed teams when it was fashionable, I am a fashionista, but ultimately this was because the music became better. whereas you, you wallowed in a dark stinking hell hole of a pit called beady eye. The band flopped harder than a vegan sausage roll, the tunes were fucking dreadful, and those empty gigs where the only things visible to the band were your big round mug and a crisp packet must have been absolutely terrible for Liam!
Let’s rejoice and thank the lord that he found someone like DEB-EH to convince him to hire Starbucks drinking hipster songwriters to bring him back from the dead.
If beady reformed right now, I wouldn’t go see them even if you paid me £2k - they are quite possibly the worst band I’ve ever heard.
And let’s get this straight
Big Liam vocals = fuck yes Big production with big Liam vocals = fuck yes Big melodies with big Liam vocals = fuck yes Liam writing none of his songs = I cried at first but then I was in fuck yes mode as it was either this or him committing suicide
Vs
Amateur playing, shit melodies, lazy lyrics, and the biggest insult of all, vocals that sounded like he was shitting 10 tonne bricks out of his nostrils = one big fuck no
Thank fuck beady eye are GONE
Honestly Karl, your post is a disaster of unimaginable proportions, this has made me unbelievably angry, and you’ve very nearly ruined my evening. There’s no need to bring Axl Rose and Sting into this.
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Post by jamesfp on Sept 27, 2019 20:15:26 GMT
Unplugged only an hour, so heavily cut. Fuming if they leave why me why not or sad song out. Bold and greedy soul cut strait away.
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