internet has destroyed music

i'll live, you'll just bottle it like soapadelica

His jaw didn't look that swollen to me... I think he just couldn't deal with the cold temperatures of Chelmsford.

your signature is pretty gay to be honest.

What's this Karl? You having a go now as well?

i dont know what im talking about just so guys know.

You been on the smack Jamie?

A great thing about the net as someone has said (think it was ben) is the fact there is so much availability & easy access to it these days. I don't have to listen to Radio one or buy NME every week to find new music, it's all out there if I want it. On the flip-side for internet geeks like myself it can sometimes be a bad thing as I'll hear too much new music. Instead of listening to a new record 10 times I'll end up hearing it 4/5 times then moving onto the next record.

But I'd still rather have too much choice than no choice at all. If I limited myself to commercial radio & NME I'd probably only be into arctic monkeys, kasabian & a few others as most the stuff you hear on commercial radio is infact shit.

TBH I'm glad brand new bands don't headline music festivals. I'm not talking about only booking dinosaurs as headliners but Babu complains that music is too much 'sound of the moment' then sulks that the headliners are established acts that have had long careers & developed their sound over the course of 20 years.

He definitely has been. He attacked me in the Noel thread earlier. Hurt my feelings.

I think he has a point, no that it's a new debate anyway... But it's so poorly argumented and he's such a cunt it's not even worth adding anything more than this.

To me the record companies destroyed it themselves.

Their was a groupd of bands making good music in the mid 00's and selling units.

The record industry decided to photocopy these bands and dilute them to the point of being shit (Libertines to Kooks for examples). These bands catch on and record industry decides they will sell records for ever and always be a live draw and don't invest in new bands/scenes. Everyone got bored of them and there was nothing new coming along. Now everytime a band does it's obvious they're a shit hype band or they are consumed too quickly by the audience. Festivals haven't helped with their reluctance to shake up line ups and give new bands a chance to hit a new audience.

AND LOADS OF BANDS RE-FORMED AND THE RECORD INDUSTRY RODE THAT WAVE FOR TOO LONG.

I spose Topman bringing the 'look' to the high street didn't help as indie lost it's mystique.

Lots and lots of issues.

The record companies took forever to get with the times. Instead of embracing new technologies, they shunned it thinking their dinosaur ways of marketing and promotion would last forever since it was all they knew. It took a fucking computer company (Apple) to basically save the major label industry or at least force their hands to come up with a digital model, and thats still overpriced compared to how easily the material is received.

I agree with your statements about carbon copy bands and such, but that's been going on for so long. Look at the 60s with all the Beatles knock offs and such. You can even go into the 80s and 90s with the new wave shit and then grunge and the 90s BritPop explosion. Its pretty much par for the course that if one act becomes super successful with a particular sound, dozens of acts similar are going to get notice.

I'd argue the internet has been a complete double-edged sword for music fans.

Almost unlimited access to any record every made is utterly brilliant. I find its difficult to give records the proper amount of listening and growing time compared to back in the day where there was a much smaller pool to choose from.

''What type of music are you into?''
''Bit of everything''

Standard answer these days amongst the non-soapy massive since Spotify's rise

Tbf, I remember you describing Franz Ferdinand as "dated" in 05/06, around the time their 2nd LP came out.

Basically Karl made the same point. BUT DO I CARE?

hey brad. shut the fuck up and come beat me at fifa yeah

In Kent - no Xbox access Jplito

I think my basic point is that the record industry had the live/fesitval scene sown up and thus couldn't be bothered making new bands or looking at a new business model because it was so profitable. Did they really think people wouldn't get bored of seeing the same bands headline the same places/festivals over and over and over.

They've not though have they? Kasabian, kings of Leon and the rest of them still sell out all the major festivals year after year so I guess the general public are not bored of seeing muse headline the festivals