internet has destroyed music

Suppose that's why you were pushing the lube...

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haven't read the whole thread (sorry!!) but here's my two cents:

Well, there's obviously pro and con to the internet thing.
One con I can think of is that internet (being a visual + auditive tool) has put a lot of emphasis on "presentation", so now the people not only have to know how to do good music, but they have to know how to sell it well: having an appealing character, have the right pictures and videos etc is essential. Not that it wasn't important back in the day (course it was important), but I think that the "aesthetical" side of music is a bit too much of a business nowdays.

A pro that might turn into a con (for us users) is obviously the incredible wealth of material we can have access nowdays. There's definitely more music that we can listen to and in order to keep up with the new releases we obviously tent to not give the music we listen to enough time to be digested. How many of us have downloaded a record and threw it in the bin after the first half-a-spin? We expect the music to grab us by the tail but we are not willing to approach the music from different angles if it doesn't grab us soon enough...simply because we have too much stuff to listen to.

That translates into: just because all the material is freely available, it doesn't mean we have to devour it all in one hectic go. The risk is that we end up being superficial about everything we listen to. And we end up liking what we like just because it sounds slightly better than the rest of the stuff that passes under our nose, not because it means anything to us.

With all this wealth of information we are exposed to, it is obvious that a product (a band, a musician, an album etc) becomes old in a matter of months. People keep ruminating about the future of new bands from the very moment they release a single, and the rumination continues until they release an album, which obviously sounds already old the moment it gets released.

However, I'm sure that clever and seasoned listeners already know how to use the internet to their advantage and are enjoying everything that is good about it. There's a lot of positive stuff about music on the internet, if you know how to use it. Your rant babu, while being totally legit, shows that you're a bit too dependent on the "social" meaning of the music people listen to. Just let these people consuming music the same superficial way they consume a McDonald's meal and use internet wisely for yourself.

To try and counter the over saturation of 'new music' that has been mentioned, I try not to dive too much into downloading loads of new albums all the time, instead i'll maybe once every month or two download a handful of stuff and try and give them some time, and the time inbetween i'll generally try to absorb albums and artists who's name I see or hear on here and other places over the internet. Obviously with established artists and artists that I like, I'll download instantly, but in terms of 'new' stuff i'll try and take a step back a bit, maybe do some research before I delve into it.

The other day for instance I found Ben's 'half year 2011' thread quite handy to dip into and downloaded a handful of albums that were mentioned in there, i'll probably sit on those for a month or two and try and give them a genuine listen.

www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jun/02/apple-expected-close-itunes-tim-cook

itunes on the way out.

I miss this fucking guy.

Damn shame, too.

Twitter has destroyed shenandoah

I've just subscribed to Premium Spotify for the first time ever. At 99p for the first three months I thought I'd give it a go.

Initial thoughts are it's amazing. I'd never thought of signing up before because I didn't expect that a lot of what I'd want to listen to would be on there but everything I've wanted to listen to I've found.

My music is not on spotify

Yellow Peril refuse to conform.

it makes getting/promoting gigs a fuckload easier if it's on spotify, having it on google play music, despite being almost pointless is usually in the same packages as upping to spotify and gets you a nice search result box for your name.
I say this despite being reasonable sure dittomusic's are ripping the missus off on royalties.

My memory of SOTSOG is doing rusty old weights in my mates shed, trying to get buff for a girl I fancied.  Think I was about 15.  The girl in question, I we were actually "going out" for a while the summer before but she chucked me because somebody told her I was a womanizer.  A womanizer, at 14, imagine that? Anyway, I wasn't.  I still liked her loads si thought if I got shredded she might let me pump her. 

I didn't get shredded, and I didn't pump her.  She got with one of my mates instead and they rubbed it in my face for about 3 months.  I recall that all being quite a heartbreaking time tbh. 

We actually crossed paths again when i was 19/20; she got a job working in the office I was working in.  We almost hooked up on a work night out but I got far too drunk, fell over somewhere in an alley and remained there til about 4am, asleep.  I remember looking at my phone the next day and there was loads of texts and missed calls off her.  Found out a few days later she ended up going home with another lad who worked in the office called fucking Neil.  She text me confessing to it, saying it was a mistake and he was hounding her and what should she do.  I remember those few days quite vividly because I was hooked on SSX3 on the PS2 and would play it for hours on end, listening to Hot Fuss (still think it's a good little album, that)

Anyway, aye, I think when it comes to music, I'd rather have access to everything I could ever want than only being able to listen to handful of records a month.  For those saying you'd spend ages listening to an album and give it a chance and end up loving it, maybe it was just a case of settling for the familiar? I dunno, but yeah, it's better the way it is today.

There are still some glaring omissions, but it’s generally pretty good for new stuff, even releases from really small indie labels.

But it does irritate me that the MBV back catalogue still hasn’t been added.

I didn't realise that. For me that makes Spotify even better knowing I won't hear them by mistake on some other bands radio station.

Sadly for all concerned, the music of BRMC continues to be available.